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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    I will keep posting what I please and it does not matter to me one bit if anyone who thinks themself a Melee Spokesperson loses sleep over the fact that people who don't like positionals would like to play melee without them and keep giving feedback. If such a melee job is released, you can take your own advice and just not play it. Speaking of fallacies, hopefully my commentary on Lyth's post has debunked the fallacy that people hate the melee role if they dislike positionals, which keeps getting repeated in this thread.

    If viper doesn't have positionals, I will play that, that's the whole point. And "don't bother us about parsing" lol, you realise you are talking to a RPR main? Reaper dps is already the lowest of melee (and barely above bard according to some sources) despite having positionals, so it's kind of weird to try and justify the existence of positionals with the promise of a higher dps potential when my job is barely rewarded for having to be in melee range let alone having positionals.
    It has nothing to do with being a "Melee Spokesperson"-- I am commenting on job homogeny in general and explaining the actual definition/application of homogeny. Removing positionals to produce a new set of melee that don't have positionals is exactly that. Maintaining positionals that exist across all melee is not homogeny. You can keep posting, you're still going to be using the term incorrectly.

    And I also do not need to be a melee spokesperson to say that, if Viper has no positionals, you'll likely be looking at aDPS closer to MCH than RPR, i.e. a bigger disparity than what currently exists (not much of one) between the current melee classes.

    Regarding BRD, the current state of its rDPS vs RPR makes complete sense and doesn't pose any contradiction. The aDPS of BRD is significantly lower.

    I would also say that if it's true Xenosys mentioned this and is the source of this discontent, then he is unknowingly a job homogenist.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 05-16-2024 at 12:57 AM.