Give Warrior the Dark Knight treatment in regards to Bloodwhetting

[Avoidy]

r/selfawarewolves

Yup, knew I'd get this response. In a game where you can play every job, I ... play every job! Fantastic rebuttal though. Have a reddit upvote.

As has been explained more times than I can possibly count you can’t scale damage hard enough to outscale bloodwhetting, it just doesn’t work

In a dungeon as much as any other content I want to heal, not watch the tank heal themselves while I do something vaguely related to that task

It’s the same as saying “don’t nerf bloodwhetting just add cleanable debuffs and lots of buffs and things to compensate” like no the tank isn’t the healer and the healer shouldn’t be stuffed to the side so the tank can be the healer

One or two white hole mechanics per boss isn’t going to change anything and white hole mechanics are the worst mechanic for the sylphies anyway

Sorry if I missed your original posts on this. We're at nearly 20 pages and I stopped after the first 3 because I got so tired of just seeing the same types of posts over and over again.
I can understand being put out by the current system. It's not great. I'd argue (and I did, in my OP) that there are ways to make healer feel like its presence matters in dungeons without gutting the fun out of WAR's kit. Going off of the logic in this thread, you'd basically need to nerf PLD and GNB as well, because if you know what you're doing on those jobs you don't really need a healer as those tanks either for dungeons. And the reason is like, yeah, they have self sustain, but also and more importantly, nothing really hurts in these trivial ass dungeons. If they just made the content itself more aggressive, more painful, and more interesting in general then we'd have a need for healers, we'd have actual fun dungeon content, and we wouldn't have to remove skills that lots of people actively enjoy to do it.

Frankly, it blows me away that we're talking about this from a dungeon context because dungeons are so trivial that every job in existence can invalidate them. Like, are you gonna pull up and ask for BLM's aoe to be nerfed because it kills the weak trash so fast that you don't have to heal? Or hey, maybe we can just take the stun out of holy so you can heal during what's usually a minimally damaging stun period? Literally the issue is that dungeons and story content in general are a joke. You can gut all the jobs until they play like healers but it won't change that this content was made for people who don't have thumbs, and as long as that's true it'll always get trivialized somehow no matter what.