Healing Focus or DPS Focus

[hunter2]

If I have to choose, then option #1 (more dps mechanics). It's fun for most players, and if you don't like damage buttons you can just not press them.

I would like story-mode content to be more challenging to heal though; it's very weird that healing difficulty peaks in late ARR dungeons then drops off to the extent that healers are superfluous in lv90 dungeons and trials/normal raids can be easily solo-healed.

[Emitans]

If tanks can have DPS rotations and oCGDs I don't see why healers can't.

Because healers are a lesser role who's only purpose is to let the tanks and dps have fun, apparently. Can't require healing because its too hard. Can't have damage buttons because it's too hard. Only role with guaranteed raises so if you die it's a wipe. All the downsides with no positives.
Anyway, bring back my poisons. And Shadowflare. And Bane.

[T-Owl]

I have to say that the lack of a DPS rotation or any variation in abilities also really hurts my personal enjoyment playing with a Healer through the story. In Solo duties, it is just pressing the same button over and over again after all, imagine fighting the final fight of Endwalkers Mainstory as a White Mage. It generally makes all solo player content as a healer boring. If anything Healers in FF14 proof that it isn't enough to ramp up the dps so that you can kill stuff solo, you also need to have some tools to keep it exciting.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

We should get both. Either alone won't solve all the issues.

If we get more damage options alone, healers still remain optional in nearly all forms of content. But at least we're having more fun in solo content, I guess?

If we get more healing required alone, there's no way they're going to make dungeons require more healing because they don't want a healer being inept to cause a wipe, so we still don't get to have fun in dungeons. But at least we're having fun in high-end content, better hope you're doing those!

If we get both, we have a better damage kit to fall back on in boring dungeon runs and we have both a damage kit to optimise and more healing to do in high-end content.

I'm of the same mind. However if we have to choose only one from those two, I'd pick #1.

I have to say that the lack of a DPS rotation or any variation in abilities also really hurts my personal enjoyment playing with a Healer through the story. In Solo duties, it is just pressing the same button over and over again after all, imagine fighting the final fight of Endwalkers Mainstory as a White Mage. It generally makes all solo player content as a healer boring. If anything Healers in FF14 proof that it isn't enough to ramp up the dps so that you can kill stuff solo, you also need to have some tools to keep it exciting.

Speaking of 'solo duties', this made me chuckle 'cause quite recently (maybe 3-4 days ago) I was just trying to kill time while waiting for a friend to come online. Of all activities, I picked soloing F21-F30 Eureka Orthros as a SCH. With +91 aetherpool weapon, I spent two full cycles of Biolysis trying to kill the first enemy that I engaged.

I told myself "No" and just kms after that to exit the duty right away. Ain't no way I'm spamming 1 button like that for 9 floors.

[vetch]

More healing, please. And more resource management. And I know this one is probably like asking for a unicorn, but some battlefield control gameplay would be nice, too.

I don't find DPSing this game's damage sponges and HP sacks particularly fun so I don't care whether that aspect gets changed -- unless they stick a really annoying damage kit on a healer I otherwise like, and then I care very much.

"But, but, but," I hear all the little DPS lovers saying...

"I want more healing too but the devs will never give it to us so I'm asking for something I think I can get!"
Go to the library and look for guides on how to negotiate. You don't start from your compromise position.

"If you don't like the new DPS buttons you don't have to press them!"
Yes you do. It's called valuing your party members' time.

"They're not going to go back and change the old fights to require more healing."
Who asked for that? They didn't go back and change Coils or Alex when they changed healers in ShB, so why does it matter now that old raids have different healing requirements?

[Supersnow845]

More healing, please. And more resource management. And I know this one is probably like asking for a unicorn, but some battlefield control gameplay would be nice, too.

I don't find DPSing this game's damage sponges and HP sacks particularly fun so I don't care whether that aspect gets changed -- unless they stick a really annoying damage kit on a healer I otherwise like, and then I care very much.

"But, but, but," I hear all the little DPS lovers saying...

"I want more healing too but the devs will never give it to us so I'm asking for something I think I can get!"
Go to the library and look for guides on how to negotiate. You don't start from your compromise position.

"If you don't like the new DPS buttons you don't have to press them!"
Yes you do. It's called valuing your party members' time.

"They're not going to go back and change the old fights to require more healing."
Who asked for that? They didn't go back and change Coils or Alex when they changed healers in ShB, so why does it matter now that old raids have different healing requirements?

1) we have been arguing for both for years and have never gotten anything, let’s not pretend like we opened with compromise
2) doesn’t stop half this games playerbase from being actively terrible, those comments are referencing sylphies who say “but too many DPS buttons are problematic” as if they currently press the ones we do have
3) so basically only future content will ever be remotely interesting and all content up till now will stay as this boring beige disaster

Really not painting a desirable picture here

[Nizzi]

More healing, please. And more resource management. And I know this one is probably like asking for a unicorn, but some battlefield control gameplay would be nice, too.

I don't find DPSing this game's damage sponges and HP sacks particularly fun so I don't care whether that aspect gets changed -- unless they stick a really annoying damage kit on a healer I otherwise like, and then I care very much.

"But, but, but," I hear all the little DPS lovers saying...

"I want more healing too but the devs will never give it to us so I'm asking for something I think I can get!"
Go to the library and look for guides on how to negotiate. You don't start from your compromise position.

"If you don't like the new DPS buttons you don't have to press them!"
Yes you do. It's called valuing your party members' time.

"They're not going to go back and change the old fights to require more healing."
Who asked for that? They didn't go back and change Coils or Alex when they changed healers in ShB, so why does it matter now that old raids have different healing requirements?

"little dps lovers"
lmao i'm extremely pleased you're going to continue to be unhappy with the game

[Aravell]

I'd like to point out again that it's still continuously being proven that most people who want more healing always seem to categorically deny any and all expansion of the damage kit while those who want more damage options are open to both. Funny stuff.

[vetch]

1) we have been arguing for both for years and have never gotten anything, let’s not pretend like we opened with compromise
2) doesn’t stop half this games playerbase from being actively terrible, those comments are referencing sylphies who say “but too many DPS buttons are problematic” as if they currently press the ones we do have
3) so basically only future content will ever be remotely interesting and all content up till now will stay as this boring beige disaster

1) Wow it sounds like you should give up on both, then.

2) How turbo-bads play isn't relevant to me. I want to contribute to my party, I would prefer to contribute more healing but will press whatever buttons I have, and a really tedious DPS kit will chase me off of a job before it makes me consider purposely not contributing.

3) Plenty of content will still be fun. Coils and Alex, Dun Scaith, Thordan EX, Sephirot EX, UCOB, UWU, dungeons where they actually let tanks mega-pull.

[vetch]

"little dps lovers"
lmao i'm extremely pleased you're going to continue to be unhappy with the game

I've read your other posts and I'm happy for you too.

I'd like to point out again that it's still continuously being proven that most people who want more healing always seem to categorically deny any and all expansion of the damage kit while those who want more damage options are open to both. Funny stuff.

Proven how? I'm the one with the harshest opinion of expanded DPS kits in this thread and I'm indifferent toward them unless they suck.