Viera Changes

[Avidria]

Maybe it's partly because I'm not trying to replicate a past appearance at all, but I absolutely love the updated f viera (Rava at least, I didn't look at Veena) and think they look great. Room for improvement of course but I have a good starting point for a look to change to in whatever the final release looks like. So we'll see.

The weird glowy ears are funny though. Hope they fix that.

[Daralii]

Maybe it's partly because I'm not trying to replicate a past appearance at all, but I absolutely love the updated f viera (Rava at least, I didn't look at Veena) and think they look great. Room for improvement of course but I have a good starting point for a look to change to in whatever the final release looks like. So we'll see.

The weird glowy ears are funny though. Hope they fix that.

Rava still have the waxy skin issue, though it's more apparent in some lighting than others and with lighter skin tones. I can barely see it around the bridge of her nose and between her nose and mouth.

[Tethan]

Detailed comparison, please open the image in the new window to see it in detail.

- White eyelashes barely visible
- Nose shading completely changed, looks dirty
- Mouth flat and featureless
- Chin looks like a golf ball and is honestly very ugly
- Skin looks rough and dry

Overall impression is dull and lifeless. I can confirm this is due to new (and not improved) textures. It appears that the mesh/model of the face is completely unchanged.

[ovan20]

I'm considerably disappointed by the changes to the female viera.

The skin tones are simply different and in the benchmark brown and light brown skin tones look washed out.
The lips and some of the faces are not even the same shape. The skin tones I can somewhat understand since the game will have a new lighting and reflection system, but why the lips and faces had to be changed? It made the female viera faces lose all their sharpness and look all rounded.
The eyes are also a major turn off, looking all lifeless.

If the expantion doesn't include a fantasia to fix the character after the update, it might make me reconsider buying this expantion.

[SongOfTheWind]

Detailed comparison, please open the image in the new window to see it in detail.
- Nose shading completely changed, looks dirty

It’s not just the shading for the nose, it is the whole form that changed. Look at the bridge or length and how it had a shape of () sort of, while now it is /\
The tip shape is changed, nostrils
It is not just the light, it is a different sculpture

[sydthegamer]

I will say after consistently looking at my Viera which is my main I have grown to really like how she looks!. I do feel like they look less expressive which is a bit disappointing but I do like that dark eyeliner-looking feature at the top of their eyes. I think that contributes to the less expressive look but maybe that’s how Viera are supposed to be portrayed? But I will say…THEIR LIPS! I feel as though for Face Option 1 with Lip Option 2...Lip Option 2 looks like smaller lips in the benchmark compared to the current lips and I don't really like that at all. I want her to have thicker and more defined lips and I think they did nerf that quite a bit on the Viera models compared to other races. I will say however they've done an amazing job with the darker skin tones that Viera have. I was messing around with the skin tones and looking at them in different light and they did an amazing job. I'd like to see how Fran looks now in the game. First image is the benchmark and second is the current Endwalker patch.

[Tethan]

It’s not just the shading for the nose, it is the whole form that changed. Look at the bridge or length and how it had a shape of () sort of, while now it is /\
The tip shape is changed, nostrils
It is not just the light, it is a different sculpture

It is not the light but the texture. I am not entirely convinced the nose is a different shape, but it is impossible to say for certain without comparing the actual meshes in a 3D program. If it is changed, the difference is very small, it's mostly a matter of the painted details being very different.

[TiamatRuneaid]

Something is really off with the bunny face shapes, lipstick and eye color options. I look like a weird doll in the benchmark I will be really unhappy if the first thing in Dawntrail I have to do is to change my looks of 4 years.

[sintea]

Okay, to preface this, I am not telling anyone to not give feedback, please do, however..

I can't help but also wonder if a lot of the people voicing their complaints have looked at their character through every background and also panned them around? I only question this because I see most feedback coming from people who choose to use Shroud for their screenshot backgrounds and it's kind of known for it's harsh lighting.

When I do that with my rava, the current lighting differences between the Shroud and Noscean backgrounds when I compare them, even with the character directed to (mostly) look at the light source, is huge. Below are before/after shots I've of her in Noscean comparing the current version with benchmark one, but I've also added a extra picture that shows Noscean lighting vs Shroud one.

Graphics are the same thorough and no adjustments to gamma or character appearance apart for hairstyle.





I want to say I lucked out with my female viera as I feel content with how she will potentially be come Dawntrail.

[LuciaMirain]

Okay, to preface this, I am not telling anyone to not give feedback, please do, however..

I can't help but also wonder if a lot of the people voicing their complaints have looked at their character through every background and also panned them around? I only question this because I see most feedback coming from people who choose to use Shroud for their screenshot backgrounds and it's kind of known for it's harsh lighting.

When I do that with my rava, the current lighting differences between the Shroud and Noscean backgrounds when I compare them, even with the character directed to (mostly) look at the light source, is huge. Below are before/after shots I've of her in Noscean comparing the current version with benchmark one, but I've also added a extra picture that shows Noscean lighting vs Shroud one.

Graphics are the same thorough and no adjustments to gamma.





I want to say I lucked out with my female viera as I feel content with how she will potentially be come Dawntrail.

I did, I checked through every light and she looks bad. She just does, I wish she didn't. Only place she looks "ok" is in the aetherial sea. And even there, when I zoom out she has a weird round faceshape she didn't have before. Her makeup is now harsh where it wasn't, her cupids bow is gone and her lips have gone from cute to sausages. And yes I did check the benchmark but there her nose looked crooked somehow in some scenes. You have a dark skinned character and most people I have seen with dark skin are actually happy. Your features are not erased in the same way they were for us with light skinned characters. I agree your character looks basically the same. Good for you. Mine looks awful.