Viera Changes

[MikatoKai]

I can't believe they'd take away defining racial features. My main is a female Keeper, and her fangs were nerfed, and my favorite alt is a Veena Viera. Now his eyes are the same as Rava. Why are they going back on lore? It's not even an opinion, like on lip shape, they're removing racial features. Why...?

[TaoTech]

current > benchmark. All I see is everything looks worse, I don't see any improvements at all here.
- same exact settings in game
- eye light is gone, makes him look dead, really hope that fix that because it makes a HUGE difference
- too dark shadow on top of eye, cannot see eyelashes at all, too much shadow at the top of eye makes every character look dead/mad, this is not what people want...
- skin looks flat/dead??? Looks far better in the current.
- lips have no shine at all, color is wrong
- I use tattoo and face paint both around the eyes, it looks totally messed up now. Before it looked amazing and blended really well.

[sydthegamer]

People are way too fixated on details. There's a million little things that looked awful in the old characters that everyone have learned to overlook but trust me, once you're used to the new ones, when you look at old screenshots or videos you'll wonder how you ever felt it looked ok before 7.0. Some of the biggest changes on my char actually are improvements on things I didn't actually like but had gotten used to.

Perhaps they could tone down the skin reflectivity a little bit (I can see why they did it - real skin is always a little bit oily and photorealistic skin shaders usually incorporate that by adding a little amount of reflectivity, but it might be overtuned here or even unecessary given the less than realistic art direction), then again it's only a problem in some of the character creation scenes, which may not even have been reworked.

I honestly agree with your sentiment! I think everyone is just not used to the graphics update yet. I agree with almost everyone about the lips issue; they are not as defined as before which I agree they should be. But other than that, I think everyone’s bun looks really good and they’ve all had a major upgrade! I think it’s just getting used to the new looks and their graphics. I think everyone will come to like or love and accept them over time. I also think people are being fairly pessimistic saying that they don’t think Square will take their feedback.This forum exists for a reason. And there’s still time before DT release. But, to me, I believe this is a major upgrade!

[SquidzureDragoon]

I honestly agree with your sentiment! I think everyone is just not used to the graphics update yet. I agree with almost everyone about the lips issue; they are not as defined as before which I agree they should be. But other than that, I think everyone’s bun looks really good and they’ve all had a major upgrade! I think it’s just getting used to the new looks and their graphics. I think everyone will come to like or love and accept them over time. I also think people are being fairly pessimistic saying that they don’t think Square will take their feedback.This forum exists for a reason. And there’s still time before DT release. But, to me, I believe this is a major upgrade!

I wish that was just the case, but there isn't any 'getting used to' and coming to love the new soulless waxfigure looking guy my currently happy, full of life viera is. I showed the comparisons to a couple of friends and even they were horrified by the change. I will admit that a few people (and I do mean a few) have had their viera come out looking good, but mine is among the masses who look devoid of joy and life. It's saddening. He does not look like the same person anymore.

[Kouren]

I don't like my Veena's new, smaller pupils. His knobbly new chin and rounded jaw are not what I wanted when I chose his face. I miss the fuller lashes that used to frame his eyes and their corners being lowered looks strange to me. I liked his lighter 'bunny' nose, but it's a different shape now, and darker too. And his mouth… That's easily my least favorite part of the new look. It's too dark, the wrong shape, and looks like he has (matte) lipstick on even though lip color is turned off.

These things aren't a matter of 'getting used to it.' I probably would not have chosen this race if my character had looked like the benchmark when I fantasia'd, and I know I'm not the only one. Sure, we're a minority, and maybe we're pessimistic, but I think it's fair to feel dissatisfied with the changes after being told (more than once!) SE would strive to keep characters looking like themselves. And sure, many things look much better, including many characters. But I can't help hoping we'll see some kind of update.

[Rudje]

I don't like my Veena's new, smaller pupils. His knobbly new chin and rounded jaw are not what I wanted when I chose his face. I miss the fuller lashes that used to frame his eyes and their corners being lowered looks strange to me. I liked his lighter 'bunny' nose, but it's a different shape now, and darker too. And his mouth… That's easily my least favorite part of the new look. It's too dark, the wrong shape, and looks like he has (matte) lipstick on even though lip color is turned off.

These things aren't a matter of 'getting used to it.' I probably would not have chosen this race if my character had looked like the benchmark when I fantasia'd, and I know I'm not the only one. Sure, we're a minority, and maybe we're pessimistic, but I think it's fair to feel dissatisfied with the changes after being told (more than once!) SE would strive to keep characters looking like themselves. And sure, many things look much better, including many characters. But I can't help hoping we'll see some kind of update.

It's honestly really frustrating to see people responding to detailed reports of differences with "it's in your head" or "you'll get used to it"; we shouldn't have to get used to it! Male Viera are the newest race added, they shouldn't have needed these kinds of drastic changes (neither should female Viera, either, but when making the guys they at least should have known they were planning the update...)! I have three Viera characters and I'm going to be heartbroken if I can no longer stand to look at them because two years ago I happened to pick the face that would get the worst treatment for them.

[VerdeLuck]

It's honestly really frustrating to see people responding to detailed reports of differences with "it's in your head" or "you'll get used to it"; we shouldn't have to get used to it! Male Viera are the newest race added, they shouldn't have needed these kinds of drastic changes (neither should female Viera, either, but when making the guys they at least should have known they were planning the update...)! I have three Viera characters and I'm going to be heartbroken if I can no longer stand to look at them because two years ago I happened to pick the face that would get the worst treatment for them.

The worst is when people say "it's just the lighting" when lighting can't explain things like pupil size or face shape. I just take it as them putting their fingers in their ears to avoid hearing anything bad about this game.

[SongOfTheWind]

And his mouth… That's easily my least favorite part of the new look. It's too dark, the wrong shape, and looks like he has (matte) lipstick on even though lip color is turned off.

I think the dark lipstick with “no lipstick” is a bug, not a re-design. There is a subforum for reporting bugs specifically. It has a bunch of benchmark related already, some were moved to accepted category recently, which is a bit hopeful. Japanese side has even more reported (several pages worth) which also seems to be moving/progressing in status.

[NoonDawn]

i lov,, him,,,,
I see the issues other Viera have though!

[Kurpse]

Looks like we're getting a Benchmark Update!

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...df4d598b31650b