Before you power level noobs

[Eliseus]

Is OP trolling? Because even without a PL you can lvl a job to 50 in a couple days.

[Teia]

Is OP trolling? Because even without a PL you can lvl a job to 50 in a couple days.

Yeah, but somehow you're more "pure" if you mindlessly grind on trash mobs to 50 rather than sit back and let others mindlessly grind trash mobs to 50. That way, you somehow know how to play your class better in endgame.

Fun fact, first time I ever used WAR for tanking, I'd never really tanked before. I leveled MRD before the class overhaul, so I had nothing to draw on for playing the class. I took a minute, looked at my action bar and the skills I had available to me (and what I could cross-class), proceeded to work out a basic strategy, and then never lost hate. While keeping up in the parse. Despite mediocre-at-best gear (Ifrit axe + full AF + jewelry) and no prior WAR tanking experience. Was I spectacular? Not really. But there was no denying I was competent.

Good players save time by being PLed. Bad players wouldn't learn anything anyway.

[Xakery]

Good players save time by being PLed. Bad players wouldn't learn anything anyway.

then why do i see dumb asses at 50 knowing nothing?

[Eliseus]

then why do i see dumb asses at 50 knowing nothing?

L2Read. Good players save time by being PLed. Bad players wouldn't learn anything anyway.

[Wevlum]

L2Read. Good players save time by being PLed. Bad players wouldn't learn anything anyway.

We've tried to explain why grind parties don't prepare you for the current endgame content several times. I think it's just a lost cause. If OP just doesn't like PL that's fine it's just OP seems to think PL makes you inherently a worse player despite fact tons of people they've passed in Ul or partied with have been PLed and they have no idea unless OP is handing out a questionnaire prior to all runs.

[Peptaru]

Stuff.

To draw on just a part of what you said, I'm glad you can tank on warrior. I'm not supporting the OP or attacking you, but anyone can tank on warrior. 4 > 5 > 1 2 3 > 1 2 3 > 6 > 1 2 3... failing that, put up rampage and just hit 1 2 3 over and over.

There are better examples to use than tanking on warrior i mean to say.

[Teia]

To draw on just a part of what you said, I'm glad you can tank on warrior. I'm not supporting the OP or attacking you, but anyone can tank on warrior. 4 > 5 > 1 2 3 > 1 2 3 > 6 > 1 2 3... failing that, put up rampage and just hit 1 2 3 over and over.

There are better examples to use than tanking on warrior i mean to say.

You realize this was exactly my point, right? It's not meant to be some kind of "I'm so awesome." It's meant to be more like "somehow despite being PLed I'm not some kind of mouthbreathing gimp."

[Peptaru]

You realize this was exactly my point, right? It's not meant to be some kind of "I'm so awesome." It's meant to be more like "somehow despite being PLed I'm not some kind of mouthbreathing gimp."

My point was that even a PL'd mouth-breathing gimp can tank on warrior so its not a good example to highlight the difference between the afore mentioned mouth-breathers and others.

[Teia]

My point was that even a PL'd mouth-breathing gimp can tank on warrior so its not a good example to highlight the difference between the afore mentioned mouth-breathers and others.

I've seen WARs who couldn't tank to save their lives. The kind that try to tank Ifrit in like a Mythril Bhuj and Kokoroon Mail and don't know how to use abilities. In all seriousness, those tend to be the kinds of players who don't get PLed so much as they leech off their betters in exp parties. If the OP is going to whine about PLing specifically and act as if normal leveling is automatically better than PLing, it's fair to point out that neither is really any better than the other at teaching people how to play in endgame.

If your idea of a mouth-breathing gimp can tank on WAR, then I'm talking about a class of gimp beneath even that.

[Geesus]

In all seriousness, those tend to be the kinds of players who don't get PLed so much as they leech off their betters in exp parties.

I'm sorry but, doesn't PL'ing do exactly this?! LOL I sure as heck know when I'm PL'd I'm leeching XP and not doing a damn thing; other than being polite to at least cure the person PL'ing us if needed. So I'm not sure of the validity of your train of thought. If people who suck in PTs of any type suck not because they were or were not Pl'd but merely because they most likely spihon'd XP which is the meaning pretty much of Power Leveled, then please explain how PL has nothing to do with a person's ability or inability to play their role?

Personally as are all the leaders of our LS, we don't PL anyone until they have at least 1 50 job. And we do it for various reasons. Learn the nuances of XIV, the battle UI, communication during PTs or Dungeon runs. Learn how other players in your LS play or people in general. And earn your place in this game. Most people are "out of content" even without PLing. Now, take all the n00bs who come in and PL them to 50 every job? Yeah cause that will help build a solid community of people enjoying the game and now waiting for 2.0 launch. lol