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  1. #181
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    rawker's Avatar
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Hard to say at this point. It looks like a dash to the target to absorb a hit, could be a single hit like old Shelltron or multiple like Cover. Or it could be something like Passage that covers everything behind the Warrior.

    Also not entirely sure if it's gonna be part of Warrior's kit or something specific to just that NPC since Trusts usually have different actions than our jobs.

    Either way it's not exactly the most imaginative of new abilities.

    Also not like we really need more mitigation, another one just seems excessive because they're certainly not gonna increase incoming damage.
    Even worse. WAR loves to steal the good stuff from other tanks and claim it as their own.
    (4)

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE


    - Seraphism is BAD.
    - Give us back Shadowflare and make Deployment/Emergency Tactics affect Biolysis
    - Give us back Rouse
    - Make pet management rewarding.

  2. #182
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    Even worse. WAR loves to steal the good stuff from other tanks and claim it as their own.
    You forgot the part where WAR gets to do it better than the tank they're stealing from.

    So expect this cover to have a 60s CD and work on things cover doesn't while providing a heal.
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  3. #183
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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    You forgot the part where WAR gets to do it better than the tank they're stealing from.

    So expect this cover to have a 60s CD and work on things cover doesn't while providing a heal.
    WAR's Cover:
    60s CD
    No gauge cost
    20% baked in mitigation
    Applies a 10% HP shield
    Applies lifesteal
    Applies a regen
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  4. #184
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    You forgot the part where WAR gets to do it better than the tank they're stealing from.

    So expect this cover to have a 60s CD and work on things cover doesn't while providing a heal.
    To be fair, it's not exactly hard to do Cover better than current PLD Cover. Thing's useless in anything but the cheesiest of challenge runs.
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  5. #185
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    WAR's Cover:
    60s CD
    No gauge cost
    20% baked in mitigation
    Applies a 10% HP shield
    Applies lifesteal
    Applies a regen
    For safety measures, add Immune to knock-back and draw-in effects.
    (1)

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE


    - Seraphism is BAD.
    - Give us back Shadowflare and make Deployment/Emergency Tactics affect Biolysis
    - Give us back Rouse
    - Make pet management rewarding.

  6. #186
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    Lyth's Avatar
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Memes aside, I don't think that's Cover. WAR can already apply a single target damage reduction/heal/shield/regen to an ally with NF, so the only thing missing is Cover's niche damage transfer effect. I'm not sure that they would go that route.

    That looks to be more like PoA, given that the WAR holds the animation until the hit lands. Wouldn't be surprising either, given that PLD regained Bulwark with the 6.3 rework to bring them in line with ToB/DMind/Camo. Expect DRK and GNB to get their magic damage only versions of PoA in 8.0.
    (1)

  7. #187
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    GoatOfWar's Avatar
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    Pepper Oni
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Memes aside, I don't think that's Cover. WAR can already apply a single target damage reduction/heal/shield/regen to an ally with NF, so the only thing missing is Cover's niche damage transfer effect. I'm not sure that they would go that route.

    That looks to be more like PoA, given that the WAR holds the animation until the hit lands. Wouldn't be surprising either, given that PLD regained Bulwark with the 6.3 rework to bring them in line with ToB/DMind/Camo. Expect DRK and GNB to get their magic damage only versions of PoA in 8.0.
    I don't expect anything for Gnb or Drk.
    War will just do it better. Warrior is already an expansion ahead and doesn't even need new abilities lmao
    (1)

  8. #188
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    I don't expect anything for Gnb or Drk.
    War will just do it better. Warrior is already an expansion ahead and doesn't even need new abilities lmao
    If WAR is an expansion ahead you can look forward to GnB and DrK to be even dumber to play, gotta bring them down to EW WAR levels of gameplay after all.
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  9. #189
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    Punt0Mancer's Avatar
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    Axel Silversun
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 96
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    The benchmark trailer really isn’t doing wonder for my hopes for healers

    Honestly looked like new lily spell, AOE chain, dosis 4/potential new attack and another star themed heal
    The WHM/AST ability look like upgrades of there GCD aoe heals
    (0)

  10. #190
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    Character
    Kasumi Bunja
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    HOT TAKE HERE:
    Tanks should not have heals except 1 on a long CD (yes i dislike WAR design). You are tanking. Mid and shields is our job not outheal a healer.
    W2W should not be the norm and require skill. You are a casual and not skilled enough = NO W2W. I think W2W is a bane of this game.

    Stop giving "win buttons". Easy to learn, hard to master. A full xpac with nothing to learn and be bored out our minds is enough. The skill ceiling we have now is how much boredom can i bear before I fall asleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    When I saw that we were going from Broil III at 290 potency in ShB to Broil IV at 295 potency in EW, I was shaking with how excited I was. I couldn't believe they were so generous with a whole 5 potency. I'm going to probably scream in excitement when 7.0 comes out and Broil V hits 300 potency, playing SCH going to be WILD once it hits 300!!!

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