Discuss : is ffxiv in trouble

[strawberrycake]

All of this

While XIV certainly isn't failing, the problem with this mind set that it's better heard then read, I agree with a lot of this, but, the balance is still an issue that can come rearing it's ugly head once we're in DT. With the plan to rework all the jobs as Yoshida said, this can cause a massive rift, this expansion is lack luster in many ways and while I don't want it to be the case, EW wasn't the best expansion. The Question now is, can XIV stand up to having a truly bad expansion, every MMO eventually has one and will people have the same faith and ability to ride it out when it happens.

In every MMO historically, people are really quick to say it's fine in the moment until you have to actually be in the trenches calling out Devs and making a companies higher ups pay more attention to how an IP is being managed. No company is immune this this.

[Heroman3003]

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I mean, it already had 'bad' expansions. For gameplay, it was HW and its raiding situation, for story it was StB, seen as 'the low'. The real question remains on whether DT will be bad or good. Frankly, so far, it seems to be setting up to be another reiteration of ShB formula, just like EW was, but this time with everything that wasn't there being brought back. It will have field zone, unlike EW, it will introduce new limited job, it will introduce a rework to Deep Dungeons (basically new content as a result), it will have all the other normal things expected of expansion content. Frankly, content-wise, DT is setting up to be the richest expansion yet so far, potentially better than StB was.

[strawberrycake]

I mean, it already had 'bad' expansions. For gameplay, it was HW and its raiding situation, for story it was StB, seen as 'the low'. The real question remains on whether DT will be bad or good. Frankly, so far, it seems to be setting up to be another reiteration of ShB formula, just like EW was, but this time with everything that wasn't there being brought back. It will have field zone, unlike EW, it will introduce new limited job, it will introduce a rework to Deep Dungeons (basically new content as a result), it will have all the other normal things expected of expansion content. Frankly, content-wise, DT is setting up to be the richest expansion yet so far, potentially better than StB was.

HW still had consistent player retention, Stormblood was the peak of gameplay for XIV. Both maintained consistent player growth and is what lead to the raid scene being as nuanced as it was prior to the 2 min meta.

So when i say bad, I don't mean gripes that can be handwaved away for what the rest of the game offers. I mean bad where it's just all irredeemable trash no one wants to touch, or the devs have lost player trust and have to earn it back. So far people are frustrated, but we all still trust them, and DT is looking good, but we havent seen the new systems in play, we do not know how much content per patch we're getting and we do not know if the job and content balance will be similar to EW, which is very possible. And if it is, a LOT of people will be mad and may lose trust for the first time.

[Gordita]

I mean, it already had 'bad' expansions. For gameplay, it was HW and its raiding situation, for story it was StB, seen as 'the low'. The real question remains on whether DT will be bad or good. Frankly, so far, it seems to be setting up to be another reiteration of ShB formula, just like EW was, but this time with everything that wasn't there being brought back. It will have field zone, unlike EW, it will introduce new limited job, it will introduce a rework to Deep Dungeons (basically new content as a result), it will have all the other normal things expected of expansion content. Frankly, content-wise, DT is setting up to be the richest expansion yet so far, potentially better than StB was.

Um akshewally SHB was the bad story, sb was the good story