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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Unironically yes, you should never be using physick when you have adlo
    There are a few cases where that just didn't work, Brayflox was one of those. Although I haven't played any job at that low level in years so it might've changed.
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    While Cure/Cure II and Benefic/Benefic II have no good reason to be separate buttons, I think Physick does have its niche uses in certain cases where Adlo isn't strictly the better options. I remember Physick saving us a wipe quite a few times when progging ultimate fights and such. I think Physick has its place, although alternatively, it could be rolled into Esuna and brought back as Leeches.
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  3. #93
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Unironically yes, you should never be using physick when you have adlo
    I dunno, using Adlo for the heal rather than the shield seems rather stupid.
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    Well no, not necessarily, if you try doing Ramuh MINE by only using Cure 2 you'll run out of MP way too fast. It's also a slower cast time than Cure 1.
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    I dunno, using Adlo for the heal rather than the shield seems rather stupid.
    I think he means that Physick is basically useless at higher levels since you have a myriad of tools to handle the job of "make HP bar go up" more effectively and efficiently.
    The problem is when you're at a level where you don't have those tools yet.
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    Well no, not necessarily, if you try doing Ramuh MINE by only using Cure 2 you'll run out of MP way too fast. It's also a slower cast time than Cure 1.
    In reality you'd do neither though? Regen is the way forward for the most part especially in the modern day with its comparatively reduced MP costs.

    It's a shame I don't have any old recordings from Ramuh back in the day but man, the value Regen brought to the table in an attritional fight like Ramuh was off the charts even as a patch heal.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    I think he means that Physick is basically useless at higher levels since you have a myriad of tools to handle the job of "make HP bar go up" more effectively and efficiently.
    The problem is when you're at a level where you don't have those tools yet.
    Damn, you didn’t need to do Lustrate dirty like that.
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  8. #98
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    I more mean outside of incredibly niche cases if you are doing that dumb “use physick because the shield didn’t get fully absorbed” then you didn’t need to cast a heal in that GCD

    Physick is 400 potency, adlo is 300 pure potency and a shield, if you cast adlo on a partially cracked shield it will refill the shield, so basically as long as the shield has lost 100 potency then adlo is always better, and if your previous shield is cracking that slowly you don’t know if you have lost 100 potency off the shield then you really don’t need to be casting a second GCD heal

    Either the enemies are hurting you hard enough the shield is getting absorbed fast enough that adlo is always better, otherwise every second GCD you could put towards damage
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  9. #99
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    There's actually a good reason to have these buttons separated, for white mage the cast speed of cure1 is faster. Sometimes you need a faster heal as opposed to a strong one. We can easily say "skill issue" but that isn't a solution nor does it change the reality of the point that I made.
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  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordita View Post
    There's actually a good reason to have these buttons separated, for white mage the cast speed of cure1 is faster. Sometimes you need a faster heal as opposed to a strong one. We can easily say "skill issue" but that isn't a solution nor does it change the reality of the point that I made.
    So reduce the cast time by 0.5 seconds...
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