Red Mage: I am not a Back line class

[Elexia]

Actually, I recall Haste (gear) being decided against. The haste spell was realistically nothing but for recast if used alone.

[Peptaru]

Gravity is on blizzard and stonera. Stone lowers magic resist.
I didn't say Rdm won't come and have its own stuff, I just think people should be prepared for it to be like dragoon.... yep, it can do stuff, but other jobs can do it better. Drg is DD, Mnk does it better. Pld is tank, War does it better. Rdm is half a melee, half a mage, half a, half a, half a.... Will it be versatile and fun? Yep, probly. It'll have problems unless they give it something so awesome that you have to take one.

I like Rdm, I put tons of effort into mine in XI, and in older titles it had a great purpose and was fun. FFXIV will have to make a hole that only Rdm can fill, then make Rdm to fill the hole. If/when they add it I'll play it and love it, but I don't think it'll be awesome as front-line anything.

[Viritess]

May request instead of decideing what can and can not be RDM perhaps we can form some suggestions around what can by making a skill lists/system that Spell or skill "X" could fit into.

I only post this request because, like many forum thread in the internet as a whole. we end up with some suggestions, and then pages of back and forth quotes.

Would be great that if you think skill or spell "X" is a good idea. propose some sort a system where it could be feasable.

A humble request, thank you

[Ruisu]

Red Mages? Melee?

Pfffffffffffft get the fuck back and keep enfeebling, you're getting in the way of real damage dealers.