Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
And my point was that the trailers are actually alike in regards to their choice of model and their overall behavior prior to the actual skill showcases. You seem to be fixated on Splatoon magePictomancer's history in the franchise (which I already acknowledged in Merrigan's comment) and its animation assets being somehow replicated from a different FF game when that was never my primary comparison. Looking cutesy and cheerfully skipping onto the scene aren't exclusive to Splatoon magePictomancer's identity, so excuse me when I raise an eyebrow at an official trailer of a different online game thematically starting out the same way with a blond model wearing primarily white, parading around before noticing the camera and making a cute gesture before the gameplay segment. That has nothing to do with "the job existed before-" and everything to do with presentation. (And Krile having prominent cat ears in her outfit is just a cherry on top)



I'm aware of how XIV showcases its new jobs. You even said it yourself; it starts with a short intro: the intros are what I'm comparing. I could care less about what the skill showcase animations look like to make comparisons, especially when they're two totally different types of games. They thematically start out similar to each other with comparable models that at best I'd consider XIV's to be a possible parody. And there's a difference in stating Splat(eh, forget it) "Pictomancer is a rip-off of Artist's class trailer" than "deciding to make Pictomancer now is a rip-off of Artist's class trailer." I'm making both a timing and a thematic critique, not an original idea critique like you seem to want to (and have been) arguing.

What I found "coincidental" about the timing has nothing to do with some obscure 2019 game having a Pictomancer and more to do with XIV's Pictomancer dropping a few years (apparently 4 instead of 2) after Artist; with a similar type of reveal intro (again, it's almost a parody). We know that new jobs take about a couple years to design, so I wouldn't be shocked to hear that seeing that Artist trailer might have... "planted" an idea in the designing process.



Merrigan and I were having a casual interaction. You decided to quote me specifically and drop dates and previous origins of Pictomancer in the franchise when I already had conceded and acknowledged the job was established well before Lost Ark (because I am well aware of that). It essentially came off as you trying to get some kind of "gotcha" moment on me with who invented the class first when I was clearly talking about the presentation and behavior of the models in their respective trailers. Quite frankly, I don't know why you even felt the need to respond to me and write that up when I already acknowledged it. If you didn't take it seriously, you wouldn't have bothered. Clearly, I must have hit a nerve. You already stated that you think the two trailers look nothing alike to you, so if that's your opinion on it (and well, you said it is), I guess there's nothing left to discuss.
Drop the aggressivity and the sarcasm a bit, okay? Just because someone quotes the last person in a conversation (since there were a couple of them going on) doesn't mean that they dislike them or want to have a "gotcha" moment against them. You assumed all that by yourself, since I just provided some data and said nothing against you or your opinion there. I might have misunderstood part of what you originally said because your wording wasn't the best (as I mentioned in the previous post), but you really seem to take this as a personal attack of some sort even after I explained it in more detail, which I'll repeat again: what's shown in the trailer (aside from the job actions) is based on the job's thematic history (cutesy flavor included), which predates the other trailer and which is always included in each job trailer. In my opinion (which is as valid as yours and doesn't imply any kind of attack against you), it was the obvious way to showcase the job and doesn't have anything to do with a trailer that Lost Ark released 4 years ago. And I'm talking about the intro here, too, by the way. Moreover, the only similarities are that both characters are females using a giant paintbrush, as I also said, since their outfits don't even look remotely close in design (so, they're "comparable" like an apple can be compared to an orange in that they're both fruits), and the scenery couldn't even be more different too. But let's compare them in more detail, if you want:

Artist: Cute short female, blonde, with a white short dress, blonde hair with pigtails, and a giant paintbrush on her back. She's happily walking on a green field full of pink and purple flowers. The camera changes and we see her waving with both hands towards the camera, and then does a cute dance and starts drawing on the ground with the huge paintbrush, to then move it around her while a black ink drawing of two flower threes covers the screen under her.

Pictomancer: Average sized female, blonde, with the hair up, wearing an artist-inspired cap with a feather, a black strapless crop top, a white short jacket with purple details, and some pants using the same design, the latter half-covered by a green and grey buttcape. Both the clothes and the model are heavily inspired by Relm as designed by Yoshitaka Amano. She's walking around the markets with a typical female hyur walking animation (very close to it), then she notices the camera, smiles, throws rainbow colored paint towards said camera and winks before finally covering it completely in paint.

So, what? Are the similarities that both are females using a paintbrush, as I said? I can't honestly see what you're talking about it looking like a parody.

By the way, if you're also talking about the extended trailer, Krile had ears in the outfit since ages ago (classical WHM clothes). Moreover, it was the only remaining Scion which hadn't gotten a job change yet, so it was the obvious pick considering both that, the aesthetics, and the character's magical background. I can't imagine how the trailer would've looked like if Krile had showcased the Viper and Derplander the Pictomancer... It might had been fun, tho, lol.

And no, they didn't just suddendly decide while working on Dawntrail that they wanted to include the Pictomancer. That was probably decided even before Endwalker was released, as it's usually the case with expansion content and themes.

Anyway, as I said, I'm not here to pick up any fights and you seem to actually take this way too seriously and personally. So, maybe let's agree to disagree and leave it there.