Pictomancer's effects need some more work

[Merrigan]

Wow. That's from about two years ago too. I'm not saying that XIV deciding to make Splatoon magePictomancer now is a rip-off of that Lost Ark game's Artist class trailer (might certainly be thinking it), but when the reveal trailer is also of a cutesy blond skipping onto the scene being all giggles and smiles before whipping out the brush and splattering paint...

What's really going on here?

(Their Artist class has way better-looking aesthetic effects btw)

It's a much nicer design, yes. And ironically, the sense of destruction we get on Lost Ark only brings out the "cute" side of the character. A little lalafel with a paintbrush singing in a field of flowers... And BOOM, AN INK WHALE IN YOUR FACE.

Yup, would play that.

I'm not sure it's an inspiration, though. The pictomancer existed in FF before Lost Ark.

[Cidel]

I'm not sure it's an inspiration, though. The pictomancer existed in FF before Lost Ark.

Oh for sure, not arguing that. But the similarities between the two reveal trailers and general timing of it coming into the MMO scene seem a little too coincidental... ( ``/\

[Yshnal]

Oh for sure, not arguing that. But the similarities between the two reveal trailers and general timing of it coming into the MMO scene seem a little too coincidental... ( ``/\

Setting aside the fact that pictomancer existed in FF since 1994, in Dissidia: OO, Relm (Jan 2019) already had almost the same animations that FFXIV is using for the job. The paint strokes done when casting are even literal clones in style (technical limitations notwithstanding), the only difference being that Relm made an easel appear to "paint on it" (not really) and FFXIV's pictomancer does it directly on the air. Anyway, Lost Ark wasn't even released in Korea (Dec 2019) back then, and much less the Artist class (Jan 2021).

[Khryseis_Astra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgdg...nnel=rendermax

Some of that stuff looks really good!

[Limecat]

I actually like the effects as they exist because they look like paint superimposed on the world, but I also agree with these ideas and would like them in addition. I'm also hoping we get some very flashy and colorful abilities like the butterfly thing Krile was doing. I mean, I want that specifically, almost like a psuedo-DNC Step where we twirl around and fling magic paint everywhere doing something. I posted this previously in a thread that seems to have gotten nuked, so here again is the best I can express my enthusiasm for the concept of pictomancer:

[Nihility]

relm's draw was of monsters that attacked, not of spells.

Maybe they did that and casting a crab or goblin over and over became grinding but i mean....

not really excited about "hey it's white mage with an ungodly oversized paintbrush that makes all the animations look really awkward and photocopy drawing of a drawing degraded effects, yay!"

[Windfire]

Probably rabid fanboys couldn't stand it being criticized and mass reported the thread /rolleyes *something that GoT quote about a mans tongue something*

[Jettinson]

The jarring part, at least from what I have seen, is that the Moogle spell looks totally fine compared to the rest?

[Hanayumi]

Ehh... rather they just go fully into the paint/colorful/toony effect, not a huge fan of the mixed effects. The little poof of fire or the thin bolt of lightning, give me some swirly Windwaker explosions, or some over the top big zappy thunderbolts like Okami.

[Mostly_Raxus]

remember all, it is meant to look cartoonish and fake, you are literally using magic to paint in mid air, and then animating the paintings with said magic.

i get the grievance that it doesn't fit with the rest of the colorless palate of the game but i for one enjoy the bright colors.

not every class is made for me or you, and i'm sure we all get it, i cant take dancer seriously for instance, but hey too many people enjoy it for me to want it be changed, i just play my weeby class i enjoy.