Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
She outright betrays her own race and personally betrays serveal people who trusted including the outright horror she inflicts on the 3 unsundered ascians by intentionally letting them witness and survive the complete extermination of the race and culture. Oh and then she creates a world of suffering a misery for some frankly vile logic of only through suffering can you know joy which honestly a vile ideology
So, to quantify, you believe Venat's crimes are:

1. Betrayal,
2. Planet-smashing,
3. Leaving survivors (I'm unclear how this is a crime but I'll run with the concept),
4. Causing suffering and misery.

I'm unclear about why this list of crimes isn't held completely equally by the Ascians. They orchestrate betrayals as part of their M.O., to cause Calamities that destroy planets, that leave at least some amount of the Source alive, and cause immense suffering and misery. In particular I would put Emet-Selch with the Garleans, Elidibus with... basically everyone he's ever manipulated, Fandaniel with the Allagans, and Igeyorhm with the Thirteenth as fitting these basically exactly.

The one thing that I can think causes a difference is that Venat did it to people she would recognize as 'like her', while the Ascians were manipulating something else? I hardly think otherizing is an acceptable or positive element, but if you do, then that still leaves Fandaniel's obliteration of Allag as Amon being equal. Emet-Selch, too, if your view is that he 'went native' at any point with us, Garlemald, or Allag.

I get that you disagree with her, and agree with the Ascians, but I don't think that even by your own logic she's actually worse.