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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    I have now. I am sad to inform you that this indeed happened. Originally I was going to test something I could do quicker like a boss in Sastasha but I thought maybe the first dungeon is just an intro so I decided to do something closer to what a player would experience after having putting in a good amount of hours into the game so I went into stone vigil and pulled the first boss and just went AFK. And wouldn't you know it, the scion marauder, conjurer and thaumaturge just killed it for me and healed any damage I took from just standing there not doing mechanics.

    So I can only imagine how horrible this experience might be to any players trying out the game and this is what they get after 30 hours into it. And how does it make vets feel? To know you are just a prop, barely standing there, not needed, the dungeon would clear itself anyways.

    Thank goodness these dungeons were harder when they came out and I did them because I wouldn't be able to stay if this was my experience trying out the game now. The worst part is vets get dragged into this all the time thanks to the roulettes as well. So we also get to experience a dungeon any random NPC can do just fine without us to share this amazing gameplay with the newer players as well.
    Now try The Dead Ends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Now try The Dead Ends.
    How about you try it and post back your results, you should really do your own work if you are curious instead of asking others to do it for you. The only reason I ran the first dungeon myself was because I was curious as well. Don't be lazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    How about you try it and post back your results, you should really do your own work if you are curious instead of asking others to do it for you. The only reason I ran the first dungeon myself was because I was curious as well. Don't be lazy.
    You're right. I'll do just that.

    What are the rules of your "the game plays itself" test? I assume running up to packs to get the npcs to aggro enemies is okay, but I'm not allowed to dodge any mechanics or move at all once combat has started? Anything other than that, and I'm actually having to do something right? Oh! And any role is fine, since the game plays itself, so tank/healer/dps shouldn't be technically needed.
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    Last edited by Boblawblah; 12-30-2023 at 03:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    You're right. I'll do just that.

    What are the rules of your "the game plays itself" test? I assume running up to packs to get the npcs to aggro enemies is okay, but I'm not allowed to dodge any mechanics or move at all once combat has started? Anything other than that, and I'm actually having to do something right?
    There are no rules besides finding out if you feel like the game plays itself. For stone vigil I just stood there and the boss died. For dead ends iirc there are some one shots so you'll probably die if you don't move. What you are trying to prove is that the dungeon felt exciting and make you feel like you were necessary to defeat it.

    So lets say you go into dead ends and dont do anything and die. Okay, so thats not the baseline for that dungeon. Now lets say you go into dead ends just move away from the big telegraphed AOEs but you don't attack and the trusts kill the boss. Did you feel like you were needed? Like you really made the difference? Or that thancred and the other scions could've done everything without you just fine and they were probably telling you that you were the hero just to make you feel better?

    Now I believe intrinsically that we know the answer to this question, but if you somehow find that fun and engaging then by all means say you felt fulfilled by what you just experienced.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 12-30-2023 at 03:26 AM.