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    OdinelStarrei's Avatar
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    Odinel Starrei
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    Thanks for citing the source, Forte, you're the best, and I greatly appreciate it.

    I don't care how FFXIV is monetized in other regions. The only thing I care about is how the combat and the encounters are designed. Everything else is superfluous to me. CN/KR clients have the exact same design as the rest of us, so if the CN producer talks about it, which he did, it's coming from a position that I can respect. And it is surprisingly to see him name drop streamers and content creators to say "Yeah, I agree with them." and "Yeah, the 2 minute meta is controversial, but we literally don't know what to do about it" and "YEAH, the game has been on this cycle for too long." Honestly makes me want to think that they're not as deaf as they claim, but I'm not naive or willing to take anything said by an SE employee as truth until I've seen actual changes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Now try The Dead Ends.
    Why move the goalpost? He did what you asked.

    Every trust enabled duty is going to have this, because you can't fail. As long as your patient, every dungeon pull and boss can be completed with nothing but you on a DPS job and minimal movements. You don't have to actually press a single job action if you don't want to, which really makes me feel like I'm fighting through the memories of dying civilizations. As an observer. Not an actual participant in anything important, since nothing compelling is ever asked of me in that environment. If you drag yourself into the death wall (if there is one), that's a different story, but I can see where they are going with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei View Post
    Thanks for citing the source, Forte, you're the best, and I greatly appreciate it.

    I don't care how FFXIV is monetized in other regions. The only thing I care about is how the combat and the encounters are designed. Everything else is superfluous to me. CN/KR clients have the exact same design as the rest of us, so if the CN producer talks about it, which he did, it's coming from a position that I can respect. And it is surprisingly to see him name drop streamers and content creators to say "Yeah, I agree with them." and "Yeah, the 2 minute meta is controversial, but we literally don't know what to do about it" and "YEAH, the game has been on this cycle for too long." Honestly makes me want to think that they're not as deaf as they claim, but I'm not naive or willing to take anything said by an SE employee as truth until I've seen actual changes.



    Why move the goalpost? He did what you asked.

    Every trust enabled duty is going to have this, because you can't fail. As long as your patient, every dungeon pull and boss can be completed with nothing but you on a DPS job and minimal movements. You don't have to actually press a single job action if you don't want to, which really makes me feel like I'm fighting through the memories of dying civilizations. As an observer. Not an actual participant in anything important, since nothing compelling is ever asked of me in that environment. If you drag yourself into the death wall (if there is one), that's a different story, but I can see where they are going with this.
    The "goalpost" was "The game plays itself", so the goalpost didn't move at all. And a quick update, I just died to the 2nd pack in Castrum Abania. I was DK and stood there and died straight up to a single pack.

    doma castle is next!

    edit: doma castle, wiped on 2nd boss, totally afk for whole time other than moving between packs.
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    Last edited by Boblawblah; 12-30-2023 at 03:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei View Post
    You don't have to actually press a single job action if you don't want to
    This is so wrong it actually hurts to read.

    And it's honestly why it's so hard to take these forums seriously, the amount of hyperbole in discussions is to the extreme. Asking for things fixed or liking the way things are becomes a matter of "so you want the game to clear itself for you?", or "so you just want it for free?"
    No, I don't think this needs to be said, but you cannot complete the game by not using any actions. You will die, and the NPCs will also die and wipe trying to bring you back depending on your job. The game doesn't play itself and it's such a ridiculous concept to even throw that out, that it feels silly to even have to address it.
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    Last edited by VerdeLuck; 12-30-2023 at 03:35 AM.

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    I'm probably not far behind you, man. Endwalker single handedly destroyed everything I was invested in in-game including my main job and Dawntrail hasn't shown me anything I think I'll care about. I'm holding out for that last job reveal in faint hope that it'll give me something to cling to but it ain't looking good.

    Que sera, sera
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    Player Ravenblade1979's Avatar
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    Anastasia Minou-rose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darty123 View Post
    I know the flamers are coming to get me even with this title but i dont have a fear at all this stuff needs to be said.

    I am Skylar Spirit from Diabolos server and have been playing the game roughly since 2.5 just before heavenward. I dont care if I dox myself because I am NOT coming back.
    I have over 800 days of playtime ( not tons of AFK time) the mentor mount and have cleared most savage fights so this isnt some meme casual gamer making this post, it was a DEDICATED player to this game who has been forgotten about

    The game has this last expansion been the absolute worst in terms of casual and midcore content and I see the directions the developers are going in. Also there is 0 social content outside of what has not been taken over by ERP clubs and Venues.

    Most of the player base cannot commit to ultimate raiding due to work and IRL obligations. The casual content is too easy now which is what kept me coming back. I remember dungeons, trials and normals raids in heavensward and stormblood having some bite to them and you actually had to pay attention. Now the content is so easy its just , " Stack, Spread, ect.

    Healers are so OVERPOWERED playing them without a damage rotation is dumb, the amount of OGCD heals one has literally breaks most content in the game.

    Boss hitboxes are so massive it takes away fun tank playing

    Item level and rewards are absolutely pointless other then to validate someone's self worth on ff logs ( /s)

    I dont see the game direction changing, the casual content is on baby mode now and there is nothing that brings the players to play together.

    Party finder is dead on primal, Crystal and Dynamis
    Im out this expansion ruined the game for me. I love and appreciate all who like this game but I encourage you all to stop settling for mediocre content and hold these devs accountable. Yoshi p did a good job with the game but it has since fallen apart for me.
    So we shall see you in game then?
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    People dont hate steamcharts their just smart enough not to rely it alone as proof. Coming to a conclusion using just steamcharts alone is fool hearted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darty123 View Post
    Deleting comment, to many nasty replies in this chat
    Sorry this had to happen. The FFXIV community can be horrible at times, and I don't blame you. Best of luck to you wherever you go.
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    The Legends of the Titanmen lives on, a shining example of the power of compassion and the ability of people to make a difference in the world. A reminder that even in the darkest of times, there is always hope, as long as there are heroes like the Titanmen who dare to do good deeds in Eorzea.

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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsman View Post
    Sorry this had to happen. The FFXIV community can be horrible at times, and I don't blame you. Best of luck to you wherever you go.
    This thread was so tame tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Elmind Exilus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    This thread was so tame tho
    Yeah, this part confuses me. There wasn't really anything spicy here. The only thing coming close were a few people pointing out that most of his posts contained at least some line somewhere that itself demeaned or insulted anyone who happened to have a different opinion from him, but even those were just pointing that out. Sadly, it feels more like just more attention-getting behavior to be eaten up by certain folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsman View Post
    Sorry this had to happen. The FFXIV community can be horrible at times, and I don't blame you. Best of luck to you wherever you go.
    Community is not horrible this is how most MMO communities treat quit threads. Bad actors and liars have turned such threads into meme's and Jokes, so people dont take them seriously or believe the poster is actually quitting.
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    Note: Taking advice from a players alt, is like taking advice from a voice in a dark room. Criticism is a two way street remember that!!

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