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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    la premade aka a "light party" is not a " a strong, well-coordinated random team" by definition, it's not random
    I don't believe I've ever suggested a premade was random, so you seem to have misunderstood my previous post somewhat. I am fully aware of what a premade is - hence my discussion here. If they were random teams, there would be no such discussion.

    I said that premades are obvious. If you aren't sure whether a team was a premade team or not, I would lean more towards the 'not'. If anyone is unsure if they've ever come across a premade team, I would guess that those occasions they weren't sure about were actually well-coordinated random teams, not premades. I'm not sure whether I explained myself any better there?

    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    if someone feels that it affects them, and thy have identified a specific premade - then why not consider varying their queue times with the goal of avoiding that premade?
    Avoidance is something of an option and a method that one of my friends prefers to use whenever we're playing FLs together and come across a premade in the previous game. But that is just avoiding the problem, not fixing it. I don't know how much of an effect player feedback here has on future adjustments (maybe JP forums have greater leverage in that sense), but if discussions here on forum has even the slightest chance of being read, then it's worth contributing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scintilla View Post
    I don't believe I've ever suggested a premade was random, so you seem to have misunderstood my previous post somewhat. I am fully aware of what a premade is - hence my discussion here. If they were random teams, there would be no such discussion.

    I said that premades are obvious. If you aren't sure whether a team was a premade team or not, I would lean more towards the 'not'. If anyone is unsure if they've ever come across a premade team, I would guess that those occasions they weren't sure about were actually well-coordinated random teams, not premades. I'm not sure whether I explained myself any better there?



    Avoidance is something of an option and a method that one of my friends prefers to use whenever we're playing FLs together and come across a premade in the previous game. But that is just avoiding the problem, not fixing it. I don't know how much of an effect player feedback here has on future adjustments (maybe JP forums have greater leverage in that sense), but if discussions here on forum has even the slightest chance of being read, then it's worth contributing.
    I'll repeat what I said before, but I'll reword it, because I didn't say that this was necessarily a "fix" for what you see as an issue. Nor for that matter do any of us know whether Square reads this, or any of the community forums (in any language), it's rather amusing, each forum always thinks the other forums get more attention.

    Let's say that the solution that you want is to have separate pre-made and solo queues, it would fix several issues that you see know.

    Let's say that Square agrees with you. Fine, it will take 9 months (this is just something I guesstimated).

    So, we agree, what you see is an issue (or more than 1 issue) isn't fixed - your friend has a "workaround" (maybe you don't), until Square comes back in 9 months, and you look at what they deliver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Nor for that matter do any of us know whether Square reads this, or any of the community forums (in any language), it's rather amusing, each forum always thinks the other forums get more attention.
    Let's hope that they do. Not only for this matter but for all suggestions and discussions made here.


    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    So, we agree, what you see is an issue (or more than 1 issue) isn't fixed - your friend has a "workaround" (maybe you don't), until Square comes back in 9 months, and you look at what they deliver.
    There's some workarounds, whether it's complete avoidance, forming a premade of your own, or a union of the two random alliances. But the source problem remains. Problems aren't fixed unless they're reported and discussed, hence this thread.
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