Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
Why do we need Echo now? Yes, it's been out for a while but it's still the current tier. My casual static is still working through it and I'd certainly prefer we get the chance to finish it at the proper difficulty before they slap the Echo on. As another poster mentioned, it shouldn't just be those who completed it shortly after it released who get the fun of challenging the content at full effect.

Enabling echo doesn't stop anyone from having it disabled, and if it is enabled and your group decides to use it then that would simply mean that the value of running it wasn't really overcoming the complete challenge, but just having the BiS gear. Going back to the days in world of warcraft groups of people with completely different goals were forced into the same pool because they didn't have an option otherwise and that is the same scenario that is playing out with savage. Waiting until the next expansion or for some very late expansion echo is pointless because at that point the content is completely dead, so the only real option is to give some kind of off ramp sooner. In the end if someone completes the content with echo on or not they still have completed the content and still had to learn the mechanics to do so, you just get to the parts that require learning faster and can deal with mistakes more easily.