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    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    People who are struggling on Anabesios p12s p1 and p2 are not lacking in skill right now
    This is quite literally the definition of lacking skill, sweetheart. You (general) aren't yet capable of beating P12S without several deaths and/or damage downs, thus needing the game to give you a free 10-20% boost to overcome that deficiency. Now let me be clear. There is nothing inherently wrong with that, of course. Especially for those inexperienced with the higher difficulty of Savage. But it is a skill issue. Like others have already brought up, you have access to nearly full i660 nowadays, which is significantly higher than people clearing it before did. Therefore, the fights have already been "nerfed".

    Even without echo, you aren't going to skip the actual hard mechanics in P12S. All of them are situated in such a way, you'll never kill beforehand. And most of them are body checks. You're not completing Classical Elements until everyone understands how the shapes and 180 degree rotation works nor are you getting by "Limit Cut" with deaths prior to the last pair. Echo may allow for a few extra deaths but it's not going to change much when the vast majority of people still struggling with Savage are making mechanical mistakes not dying to enrage.

    It should also be noted, the "running joke" has nothing to do with echo. People asking for Savage to be unlocked earlier simply want the gear restriction removed so they can subsequently gear and play more jobs. In fact, several of those same people would prefer echo didn't happen until 7.0 to preserve the fight's difficulty curve.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 12-02-2023 at 03:53 PM.
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