(Large Housing Problem) 177 Bids on One House

[Stormpeaks]

Pretty much. They've even admitted in a thread a few months back that they have a spreadsheet they use to keep track of when they last entered each of their houses so they can avoid demolition. If they were using the houses at all, they wouldn't need the spreadsheet.

On the other hand, Stormpeaks openly acknowledging such things becomes a good example of what is wrong with the system. In the end, the blame lies with SE for the current housing design. Sometimes it takes players like Stormpeaks abusing what the system intentionally allows before developers will change the system.

For now, they get away with it because it seems like most of the abuse happens on the NA/EU worlds where housing is difficult to get in the first place. While it also happens on the JP worlds, the impact is smaller because their overall populations are much smaller than on the NA/EU worlds. If housing problem for JP was as bad as it's been for the NA/EU worlds, SE probably would have taken more constructive action already.

Lol @ me being where housing is difficult to get

I was on EU on the most empty worlds, and I am now on Dynamis

please get your facts straight

And yes I do use a spreadsheet, so? What's your point ?

I just have a terrible memory and I'd rather use a spreadsheet to keep track of timers (submarines especially), it aint that deep.

Like you commenting on housing shortage when you are on dynamis?

Dude literally just made an account to have a go at me and rage and boohoo about multiowners while being on Dynamis himself which is absolute housing galore with thousands houses across the board

peak comedy really

[Impia]

Dude literally just made an account to have a go at me and rage and boohoo about multiowners while being on Dynamis himself which is absolute housing galore with thousands houses across the board

peak comedy really

You love to flatter yourself, but as it clearly states right beneath my head, I made this account in October. Your continued hissyfits, entitlement, and condescending behavior toward everyone interested in discourse surrounding solutions to the housing issue just so happened to be the thing that brought me out from quietly lurking. You deserve the criticism, quite frankly.

[Reinha]

Dude literally just made an account to have a go at me and rage and boohoo about multiowners while being on Dynamis himself which is absolute housing galore with thousands houses across the board

peak comedy really

He's following you around like a pet even though you're not feeding him.

[Stormpeaks]

He's following you around like a pet even though you're not feeding him.

Yup lmao, living in his head rent free, you love to see it

[Veritas-Ancora]

The biggest gaffe is that the housing system wasn't designed for any sort of longevity. If it was, all lots would basically be large size lots, and you could essentially buy the size house you want, and upgrade later without having to leave that lot. Sure, some lots might be more appealing that others, but being able to just upgrade your house would have gone a long way.

I agree with this. I was around when the first houses went up for sale and there were a lot of people back then that were concerned about the system not being instanced. While I'm curious to see if they'll ever fix this, the fact remains that it's been a system for over 10 years now and I'm a little concerned that this won't be fixed.

So the question at this point is what can they do with the existing process? There was a rumor translation that Yoshi P was looking into internal upgrades, but literally no one reported on this fact so I question the translation.

[whysosalty]

Because you've managed to benefit from a flawed system and don't actually have to deal with the consequences when you aren't so fortunate, so you're already biased.
Relating to that, because you believe it's a luxury, and you possess that luxury, and want to continue to have the perceived benefits of owning said luxury, the status quo actually works in your favor - hence, self-interest.
And because you believe that because you worked until it paid off, everyone else should, and that makes it a viable way of coping with the inadequate supply rather than a patchy attempt at making the best of a bad job.

Basically what I've already said.

I really wish the forums had a laugh reaction.

[whysosalty]

Houses were initially insanely expensive and FC only. They were never intended as a luxury item but a reward that few actually managed to obtain, so scarcity or luxury were never intended as factors. It's been fundamentally flawed from the beginning, and it only snowballed the more they advanced the housing system as a means of actual gameplay. It's nothing to do with tone policing, I don't know why I have to keep explaining that. When you say something is unequivocally true, expect to get challenged on it, particularly when there's so much behind it that suggests your view is flawed and you're speaking from a place of self-interest than anything else. Anyone can say anything they like, but it doesn't always mean anything and you will come up against criticism for it sooner or later.

So how do you feel about people with multiple larges? Are we the double devil?

[Jojoya]

So how do you feel about people with multiple larges? Are we the double devil?

The devil is the housing system design that doesn't allow every player to have multiple larges if they desire.

Players need to stop wasting energy attacking each other when it's the developer design choices that have created the situation.

[Impia]

The devil is the housing system design that doesn't allow every player to have multiple larges if they desire.

Players need to stop wasting energy attacking each other when it's the developer design choices that have created the situation.

If I go to a party and I eat *all* the pies, I haven't broken any laws and I'm not going to suffer punitively. However, those pies were for everyone and if I consume them all for myself I have made a social transgression, and will suffer social consequences. It's bad behavior and shouldn't simply be dismissed because it's technically allowed by the letter of the law.

[Jojoya]

If I go to a party and I eat *all* the pies, I haven't broken any laws and I'm not going to suffer punitively. However, those pies were for everyone and if I consume them all for myself I have made a social transgression, and will suffer social consequences. It's bad behavior and shouldn't simply be dismissed because it's technically allowed by the letter of the law.

Is it bad behavior? Yes.

I am trying to be dismissive? No.

Does trying to hold those players to account for their actions socially change anything for the rest of the player base? Also no. Even if every multiple house owner gave up all their houses except one, there are still not enough large and medium houses in the game for every player that wants a large or medium house.

I want those with the ability to fix the problem - the developers - to fix the problem. Society spends way too much time arguing about who is to blame and not enough time focused getting problems fixed. Let's fix things and in this situation, only the developers can do that.