(Large Housing Problem) 177 Bids on One House

[Impia]

Why not, though? What's the reason people shouldn't be able to get exactly the house size they want if they have the gil for it? A new player who manages to save up gil for a Large shouldn't be punished for being new and all the Large plots being taken by vets. I'm perfectly happy with my Small in Ishgard but if someone is a decoration enthusiast, I can't see a good reason to gatekeep mansions.

Stormy wants to feel special by being a haves in a world of have-nots.

[Jojoya]

Stormy wants to feel special by being a haves in a world of have-nots.

Pretty much. They've even admitted in a thread a few months back that they have a spreadsheet they use to keep track of when they last entered each of their houses so they can avoid demolition. If they were using the houses at all, they wouldn't need the spreadsheet.

On the other hand, Stormpeaks openly acknowledging such things becomes a good example of what is wrong with the system. In the end, the blame lies with SE for the current housing design. Sometimes it takes players like Stormpeaks abusing what the system intentionally allows before developers will change the system.

For now, they get away with it because it seems like most of the abuse happens on the NA/EU worlds where housing is difficult to get in the first place. While it also happens on the JP worlds, the impact is smaller because their overall populations are much smaller than on the NA/EU worlds. If housing problem for JP was as bad as it's been for the NA/EU worlds, SE probably would have taken more constructive action already.

[Reinha]

most of the abuse happens on the NA/EU worlds where housing is difficult to get in the first place.

Housing is not difficult to get on EU lmao. Stop living in 2021 already.

[Impia]

Housing is not difficult to get on EU lmao. Stop living in 2021 already.

It's amazing how many people love to comment like this on problems they are completely outside of.

[Reinha]

It's amazing how many people love to comment like this on problems they are completely outside of.

Like you commenting on housing shortage when you are on dynamis?

[Jojoya]

Housing is not difficult to get on EU lmao. Stop living in 2021 already.

I'll be honest, I haven't checked out housing availability on EU since just before EW launched.

So then it sounds like it's just an NA problem.

[Impia]

Like you commenting on housing shortage when you are on dynamis?

The difference is that I'm listening to the affected party's feelings on the matter and acknowledging their concerns (a foreign concept for you I know, but try to keep up here) while you on the other hand dismiss their valid feelings on the matter as non-issues because you're not an affected party.

These are not the same thing, but go ahead and continue to be obtuse.

[Reinha]

I'll be honest, I haven't checked out housing availability on EU since just before EW launched.

So then it sounds like it's just an NA problem.

Shiva has 600+ houses of which 300 are private/unrestricted and that's the lowest number on EU. Other older servers have around 800-900 empty plots or more and that's been a stable number since July.

There are also some older NA servers which have now had more than one cycle with 0 bid personal houses (Sargatanas and Ultros to name a couple), so effectively it's a problem that only affects some older NA servers but not all of them. 6 more wards to every non-Dynamis NA server would be enough to satisfy the demand, I reckon.

[Reinha]

The difference is that I'm listening to the affected party's feelings on the matter and acknowledging their concerns (a foreign concept for you I know, but try to keep up here) while you on the other hand dismiss their valid feelings on the matter as non-issues because you're not an affected party.

These are not the same thing, but go ahead and continue to be obtuse.

You were calling someone who multiowns on Dynamis out of all places a bad actor who's actions are a detriment to others, so by saying that whose concerns were you validating exactly? The concerns of people who can't get a house on Dynamis because they don't know how to create a character and finish the tutorial quest?

You should at least inform yourself of who has a housing shortage before you start white knighting for them if you don't want to keep coming across as foolish and arrogant the way you have so far.

[Impia]

You were calling someone who multiowns on Dynamis out of all places a bad actor who's actions are a detriment to others, so by saying that whose concerns were you validating exactly? The concerns of people who can't get a house on Dynamis because they don't know how to create a character and finish the tutorial quest?

You should at least inform yourself of who has a housing shortage before you start white knighting for them if you don't want to keep coming across as foolish and arrogant the way you have so far.

No regrets. We are ideologically opposed, there's no common ground here and no room for compromise. I do not believe multi-owners should be allowed to do what they do. It damages the entire community, and the only people who think differently are a part of the multi-owner echochamber themselves. I'm not exactly thrilled that so many of them have started stinking up the wards on Dynamis.

You calling anyone else arrogant is laughable.