(Large Housing Problem) 177 Bids on One House

[Pablomaldito]

Your large ain't got nothing on this Balmung medium.

....to be fair though, it is one of the most desirable plots in the game of any size :P .

[4clubbedace]

id absolutely just move worlds if this is what one world is like, good god

[SanadaX]

id absolutely just move worlds if this is what one world is like, good god

Only going to get worse once well lets see,

New expansion brings forth new and returning players

Not to mention Xbox players.

May the odds be ever in their favor.

[Veritas-Ancora]

Your large ain't got nothing on this Balmung medium.

....to be fair though, it is one of the most desirable plots in the game of any size :P .

That's insane. The perfect post for requesting instanced housing.

[AlexiaD]

That's insane. The perfect post for requesting instanced housing.

So people not getting a freebie LB41 on the most populated server with the most active playerbase in the entire game means we need instanced housing ?

Lmao

[Corvus_V]

this guy with the "freebie" shit again lol. i've had people come back to this game or start and wonder how they'll ever get enough gil to afford a medium or a large as if any of it is free in the first place without concerning gil let alone the fact that you paid for the game and sub with real money in the first place. not even worth responding to beyond that; completely out of touch

That's insane. The perfect post for requesting instanced housing.

I've been saying this. You can do the math on the bids for houses, mediums and larges and sometimes even smalls; and just by going on the average they'd have to add another 20-30 wards before there are enough for the people who want them (which would make them more desolate and liminal than they already are), nevermind that implementing it is absolutely within SE's scope. they wouldnt even have to get rid of wards but it'd make the game better for anyone with the gil to own a house they want. people wouldn't have to complain about access to workshops, and they wouldn't have to be so worried about anything they do have demoing during major content lulls.

that's definitely a worse count than ive ever seen on my server, but its still very, very obvious to me even on mine that our current system is insufficient. it goes without saying that i agree with you, though i'd have said it doesnt take much brainstorming to argue for it as a necessity despite this kind of being clear proof of it

[Ayan_Calvesse]

I think the housing mirage is a fair compromise; it keeps the ward feel and some sense of exclusivity to housing while encouraging players to bid on something then just med or large.

Honestly at this point there are ALWAYS houses that go up for bid; but because the lotto is once a week; there are only 60 some lottos a year which leads to obvious frusteration as you keep bidding.

I honestly feel the lotto is TOO accessible; I do deco for folks and often times I get people requesting I do their home for them. To say nothing of houses that have been left being empty for months and players to get upset when their "home" gets demoed due to 45 DAYS! of them not going there.

The overabundance of gil has resulted in abnormal levels of inflation but not for ACTUAL homes. You can pay for a home working in a venue for a week if you wanted...its INSANE.

[Corvus_V]

I think the housing mirage is a fair compromise; it keeps the ward feel and some sense of exclusivity to housing while encouraging players to bid on something then just med or large.

Honestly at this point there are ALWAYS houses that go up for bid; but because the lotto is once a week; there are only 60 some lottos a year which leads to obvious frusteration as you keep bidding.

I honestly feel the lotto is TOO accessible; I do deco for folks and often times I get people requesting I do their home for them. To say nothing of houses that have been left being empty for months and players to get upset when their "home" gets demoed due to 45 DAYS! of them not going there.

The overabundance of gil has resulted in abnormal levels of inflation but not for ACTUAL homes. You can pay for a home working in a venue for a week if you wanted...its INSANE.

the thing about the neighborhood feel, which i'll admit is a potentially desirable outcome, is that forcing people into it and the arbitrary system of logging in and out every 44 days in order to keep it 'exclusive' (which is a very, very dubious value IMO) is that it is diminished by the former. part of the reason neighborhoods don't really even feel like neighborhoods in so many of the wards is because people don't actually use them (amongst other things, like teleporting to your house directly eliminating what we'd normally call 'traffic').

masses of them are just kept by people who don't want to lose them or who dip their toes in housing because they have the gil and never really invest in it beyond that, and some people just want to participate in subs. you just very, very rarely ever encounter other players outside of set specific meeting spots because they just are almost never online at the same time as you, especially during content lulls.

can you imagine if wards were full of houses owned by people who actually RP, or make venues, give a hoot about socializing in general, have strong interests in decorating, and/or stay subbed due to long-term, consistent playing; etc? as opposed to, let's say, the people i mentioned earlier who log in just to preserve their house, or people who are "exclusively" about subs who probably exclusively travel between their house and the market-board and then account swap. if you remove the 'exclusivity' which is a product of the latter kind of people i'm describing amongst a general insufficient capacity for housing, would this not create an incentive for people to abandon that kind of fear altogether and just own an instanced house or instanced workshop? is it really all worth it? just for the submarines and 'exclusivity'? there are already other facets of the game these people circumvent as far as limitations are concerned, like map limits. if they're that determined, why let those people ruin it for everyone when they could still take advantage of that?

like i agree, housing mirage is a more desirable step in the right direction (is it even actually confirmed?)
but do you really believe thats the best thing to do given all that?

and speaking of inflation, wouldn't instanced housing create another entirely massive gil sink? if it costs you 50m or even more to purchase your very own instanced homestead, let's say, and EVERYONE has access to it. when it comes to MMOs managing this sort of thing, creating ways for the game to take money out of circulation is one of the way to make it more valuable, no? whereas, even in the current lottery system; if you don't win the bid, you just... go get your money. only one person actually submits their gil to our Guardians so to speak and you even get some of it back if you just let them destroy it. It's not much of a gil sink as-is, but doing it almost any other way would make most people feel cheated. if its never demo'd that money is just... gone. there's no getting it back because of real life circumstances or deliberate inactivity. its out of circulation from your personal account forever. if its tied to your account theoretically you wouldnt even need to be entitled to get it back during a server swap.

[AlexiaD]

holy wall of text batman

The more you dig to try and justify instanced housing being a thing the funnier it gets.

[Corvus_V]

The more you dig to try and justify instanced housing being a thing the funnier it gets.

It's pretty clear to most people that it has all the justification it needs, so if that's the kind of thing that makes you laugh then man; the bar is low. It's a shame the houses you own don't actually come with any keys otherwise you might accidentally jingle them and find that its about as entertaining

also if big words that mean things in sentences together bother you twitter might be more your speed, they have a character limit