PL Woes

[Xoo]

So you just described a pulling scenario commonly used in dungeons to get through them efficiently/quickly. You left out any kind of boss battle completely, where managing enmity and learning an effective rotation with your jobs, as well as proper positioning all play vital roles. Uhh, sure.

Even then, all you're really talking about is the content design.

That's right, and where I come from, we learn to crawl before we walk.

[Xoo]

Because you can't do anything about it lol. No matter how much you gripe, complain, protest, they will always cater to the largest demographic because thats what their job depends on. You don't have any choice but to accept it. We lost out, and until we become the majority we can't make games how we like them. WoW, Wii, those sorts of inventions/innovations changed *everything*.

Yes there is. It's called a boycott. But that won't happen - people don't fight for anything any more. They just roll over and say, "Oh, there's nothing we can do..."

Sad deal.

[NoctisUmbra]

That's right, and where I come from, we learn to crawl before we walk.

Ok so, SE should put in more lower level content. Until then, the problem remains lack of low level content, not the existence of PL. Right back to my initial point, exp parties and PLing are both mindless.

yay for arguing in circles!

[yialee]

Ok from the sound of this i say this about power level....
1. Everyone start rank 50 everything day one since alot ppl dont even care about leveling up so why even put exp level in it.
2. Hope that RMT just power like 100 level 50 account to max and farm the ???? out of nm and drop market price. Not to think alot ppl aready shouting to pay ppl (maybe rmt who took the bait) to power level them.
3. Stop alot ppl who complain about content b/c they wont be so boring max 50 everyone from power level and got nothing esl to do.


i dont really care about power level but power leveling this way is horriable idea. Atleast ffxi you are outside the party healing your party while they kill mob instead just afk in party and wake up the next day rank.

[Xoo]

Ok so, SE should put in more lower level content. Until then, the problem remains lack of low level content, not the existence of PL. Right back to my initial point, exp parties and PLing are both mindless.

yay for arguing in circles!

I disagree. This whole game is mindless. I disagree again. The problem is powerleveling and the battle system. These are, in fact, my opinions and we can keep going around and around all day if you like. I've got 3.45hrs. left on my shift.

[Lux_Rayna]

Yes there is. It's called a boycott. But that won't happen - people don't fight for anything any more. They just roll over and say, "Oh, there's nothing we can do..."

Sad deal.

If you're in the minority whats a boycott going to do? So what, 100 hardcore rpg enthusiasts refuse to buy SE products. Meanwhile 2 million idiots go out and buy the latest new fad. SE makes lots of money, and could care less about your boycott. This is what I mean by reality. How in the world is a small boycott going to affect their profits enough for them to bother with your demands? It won't, unless you were their only customer lol. But if they successfully make a game that appeals to the masses (which entails every feature you don't like), then a boycott by disgruntled RPG enthusiasts won't mean a damn thing to anyone.

There is nothing you can do. Its just the truth. Look at what happened with the occupy wall street protest. That reached many states, many countries, and still didn't accomplish much. So what if 5% of my subscribers throw a fit and say they wotn play anymore? Who cares? 95% of them are paying the bills, and new guys will just replace the old ones anyway. Thats the logic~

Its why I always laugh when ppl create quit threads, and threaten SE that they'll leave the game, because SE doesn't care. For every disgruntled player that leaves, an idiot will take his place. Ppl are under the impression that they matter, when in reality they are a decimal point in the grand scheme of things.

[Xoo]

If you're in the minority whats a boycott going to do? So what, 100 hardcore rpg enthusiasts refuse to buy SE products. Meanwhile 2 million idiots go out and buy the latest new fad. SE makes lots of money, and could care less about your boycott. This is what I mean by reality. How in the world is a small boycott going to affect their profits enough for them to bother with your demands? It won't, unless you were their only customer lol. But if they successfully make a game that appeals to the masses (which entails every feature you don't like), then a boycott by disgruntled RPG enthusiasts won't mean a damn thing to anyone.

There is nothing you can do. Its just the truth. Look at what happened with the occupy wall street protest. That reached many states, many countries, and still didn't accomplish much. So what if 5% of my subscribers throw a fit and say they wotn play anymore? Who cares? 95% of them are paying the bills, and new guys will just replace the old ones anyway. Thats the logic~

Its why I always laugh when ppl create quit threads, and threaten SE that they'll leave the game, because SE doesn't care. For every disgruntled player that leaves, an idiot will take his place. Ppl are under the impression that they matter, when in reality they are a decimal point in the grand scheme of things.

I suppose the recent server merge, the rumored 2.5m ragequit from a FF fan, etc., didn't shake SE at all. Shyeah.

[JakeRoon]

2.5m ragequit from a FF fan, etc., didn't shake SE at all. Shyeah.

it did....those 2.5m ragequitters are the guys who want all the features you hate.....remember? That's why they /ragequit

no jumping? /ragequit
no content finder /ragequit
no anything in any new mmo since 2004? /ragequit


I mean we already discussed this Xoo, the mmo style of play you want is DED , DEAD, kaput, fineato, and I asked you to join the revolution, but you continue to fight for the Resistance.....well....

Resistance ....is....futile....

We are mmorg, you will be assimilated. We will add your distinctiveness to our own.

[Zaaku]

This is what boggles my head meats. SE went against the grain with FFXI. It never competed with WoW. Instead it funneled a niche into its ranks and thus avoid the inevitable bloody gruesome fate that awaits any MMO that tries to tackle WoW. The game was a finical success and made steady profits over 7 years.

Why. Why after seeing company after company after company after company spend years and millions of doll hairs on their own flavor of the month MMO WoW clone shit their pants, drop to the floor, and suffocate in their own drool would they emulate their parameters?

Say what you want about how casual gameplay entices more players.

FFXI 200-300k subs
FFXIV 10-15k subs

Even if they only migrated over half of the FFXI players this game would have made 15-20x times more money in this first year alone. Do they truly think they can pull out a home run with 2.0 and somehow jump past half a mil subs with the same easy gratifyingless bullshit that everyone else offers in spades?

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[NoctisUmbra]

I disagree. This whole game is mindless. I disagree again. The problem is powerleveling and the battle system. These are, in fact, my opinions and we can keep going around and around all day if you like. I've got 3.45hrs. left on my shift.

I'd rather not, as I can't make sense of your subjective arguments.

Back to mining!