Should the devs appologise to the community

[Kes13a]

because the players are telling them theyre wrong and theyre blatently overrulling there opinions

more accurately, some players on the Forums are saying they are wrong.

I have played games where the devs tried to "save the game" by listening to the players. usually they are not around for long after that because the majority of players didnt usually sign up to play what the "listened" to players want to play. I suspect the same thing here honestly.

when it comes right down to it, I do not believe they need to apologize as long as we keep paying for what they are offering. if we REALLY dislike what they are doing, we shouldnt pay for it. I am not thrilled with the solo direction, but I can live with it for now. its their game, they make the rules and the playing field. to expect an apology for them following their direction for the game seems rather entitled. if I dont like it enough, I'll leave, and still consider my money well spent for the time I have been entertained by the game.

[Snorky]

more accurately, some players on the Forums are saying they are wrong.

I have played games where the devs tried to "save the game" by listening to the players. usually they are not around for long after that because the majority of players didnt usually sign up to play what the "listened" to players want to play. I suspect the same thing here honestly.

when it comes right down to it, I do not believe they need to apologize as long as we keep paying for what they are offering. if we REALLY dislike what they are doing, we shouldnt pay for it. I am not thrilled with the solo direction, but I can live with it for now. its their game, they make the rules and the playing field. to expect an apology for them following their direction for the game seems rather entitled. if I dont like it enough, I'll leave, and still consider my money well spent for the time I have been entertained by the game.

Omg Kes you're making too much sense! How can you how dare you not go along with the doom narrative! Don't you know the sky is falling! How can you tell people to just stop paying for being kicked around! J/k I agree and you said it well.

[Stormpeaks]

Omg Kes you're making too much sense! How can you how dare you not go along with the doom narrative! Don't you know the sky is falling! How can you tell people to just stop paying for being kicked around! J/k I agree and you said it well.

It really is hilarious how saying the game is in decline = doom in yall minds.

Literally not a single person is saying the game is dying.

[Snorky]

It really is hilarious how saying the game is in decline = doom in yall minds.

Literally not a single person is saying the game is dying.

Changing the goal posts again stormy and please point to where I said that anyone said the game is dying ? The doom posting is ridiculous on this forum

[Stormpeaks]

Changing the goal posts again stormy

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[CStrife912]

Changing the goal posts again stormy and please point to where I said that anyone said the game is dying ? The doom posting is ridiculous on this forum

Its stormy....their alts are more reasonable but yeah....don't expect a proper engagement without some good old fashioned goal post shifting and narrative twists :P

[Kes13a]

Omg Kes you're making too much sense! How can you how dare you not go along with the doom narrative! Don't you know the sky is falling! How can you tell people to just stop paying for being kicked around! J/k I agree and you said it well.

its a character flaw I suppose. that and I have been to this kind of dance before. seen games where the devs listened, and the game became unidentifiable garbage no one wanted to play, and see where the company said "our way or the highway" and became a game no one wanted to play.

there are some serious issues, there are legitimate beefs, there is also a LOT of whining. its a game forum so that is rather expected. everyone, some of us more than others, have views of the game WE personally want... but the stark reality is, its not our game. I am sure if some of the more vociferous doomsayers came up with their own game, Yoshi would love the competition.

but I will not hold my breath while they do.

[Carin-Eri]

its a character flaw I suppose. that and I have been to this kind of dance before. seen games where the devs listened, and the game became unidentifiable garbage no one wanted to play, and see where the company said "our way or the highway" and became a game no one wanted to play.

there are some serious issues, there are legitimate beefs, there is also a LOT of whining. its a game forum so that is rather expected. everyone, some of us more than others, have views of the game WE personally want... but the stark reality is, its not our game. I am sure if some of the more vociferous doomsayers came up with their own game, Yoshi would love the competition.

but I will not hold my breath while they do.

Same. I mean, I came to FFXIV from a game where the Community Manager was (and probably still is) a spiteful POS. Said CM outright said, in a livestream, that there was no real point in the game's forum/social media communities asking for anything as the only feedback they really cared about was the in-game metrics, with the underlying implication that players should stop asking for anything.
That CM even went so far as to create two (2017 and 2021) polls on Twitter asking what players most wanted to come next... and then completely ignored the results.

And the moderators on that game's forums? Totally adverse to any/all forms of negativity or criticism on any level. I was permabanned from that game's official forum for expressing a negative opinion; in a thread the CM created pertaining to "better communication" I commented that the CM (same one I've described above) needed to learn how to use a spellcheck and how to proof-read his sloppy blogs and news posts (since they were/are always filled with spelling errors, poor grammar, and incorrect dates), and actually learn how to make a professional looking customer-facing product. I also noted that there wasn't really any viable excuse for said CM's work to be so sloppy after six years and a promotion. My account became inaccessible the next day.

And thanks to the Devs doing whatever their cherry-picked metrics told them and nothing else, that game turned into a gamblebox fueled mess.