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    Should the devs appologise to the community

    Please try to leave constructive replies instead of just saying anything to be heard
    I've been toying with this question in my mind basically since around 6.2 when it became obvious this game was'nt going to deliver any real of meaningful change.. seeing the clear nature of the cash shop and the exploitation in the games current content output vs what we pay our sub for, anbd ofcourse that 7.0 will be a min of 6months between patches of basically... nothing...

    should the developers appologise for the state of the game?

    and if not... what level of accountability SHOULD we hold them to? if any..

    (ofcourse this is just a question i am not demanding this or that people do this so please read it properly before you start attacking me)

    OP notes How do i delete this trash-fire thread lol
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    Yes. Each of them owe each of us an apology and a foot massage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    Yes. Each of them owe each of us an apology and a foot massage.
    its ok to just say no. the theatrics are unnesscesary
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    its ok to just say no. the theatrics are unnesscesary
    Isn’t a thread asking for apologies a bit theatrical?

    Not everyone has issues with the game that rise to the level of demanding an apology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    Yes. Each of them owe each of us an apology and a foot massage.
    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    its ok to just say no. the theatrics are unnesscesary
    Keep the Theatrics, and the Apology.
    I want the Foot Massage.
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    What would they apologize for? They have delivered exactly what anyone who has been playing for multiple expansions can expect. How much you like that content is a your mileage may vary situation, but they have given us what they told us we were getting. If you want to hold SE accountable, the only tangible thing you can do is to unsub and deprive them of that money. Otherwise keep giving feedback to try and shape what the devs decide to give us for follow on expansions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    What would they apologize for? They have delivered exactly what anyone who has been playing for multiple expansions can expect. How much you like that content is a your mileage may vary situation, but they have given us what they told us we were getting. If you want to hold SE accountable, the only tangible thing you can do is to unsub and deprive them of that money. Otherwise keep giving feedback to try and shape what the devs decide to give us for follow on expansions.
    so we did actually get a 4gamer interview with a really concerning statement in it, and on the note of unsubbing, honestly.. if this is the stance they continue to take. i actually WILL be

    "On Relics: "In the past, the idea was that it would be okay if you just made one job, and the time calculation for Zodiac Weapon was set at 120 hours, but now that the range and amount of content has expanded, there is less time to devote"

    "If you plan to have multiple jobs produce items, it will take a toll on your inventory if you go around collecting special reinforcement items, and it will be difficult to tell how much you have strengthened. Therefore, we made it so that Allagan tomestones"

    "young people who play online games these days choose not to play unless it is easily available. However, as I mentioned earlier, if players are enjoying playing multi-jobs these days, I think our game design should be designed to reflect that."

    "On the other hand, there are also voices saying that they want enhanced content or exclusive content for weapon production. It's a voice that never existed before... However, in Bozja we created a system where weapons could be strengthened both inside and outside of the content, but in the end it came down to efficiency. For that reason, it is difficult to know what to do with the next series, but the fact is that many players have strengthened the Manderville Weapon this time to the highest level ever."
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    so we did actually get a 4gamer interview with a really concerning statement in it, and on the note of unsubbing, honestly.. if this is the stance they continue to take. i actually WILL be

    "On Relics: "In the past, the idea was that it would be okay if you just made one job, and the time calculation for Zodiac Weapon was set at 120 hours, but now that the range and amount of content has expanded, there is less time to devote"

    "If you plan to have multiple jobs produce items, it will take a toll on your inventory if you go around collecting special reinforcement items, and it will be difficult to tell how much you have strengthened. Therefore, we made it so that Allagan tomestones"

    "young people who play online games these days choose not to play unless it is easily available. However, as I mentioned earlier, if players are enjoying playing multi-jobs these days, I think our game design should be designed to reflect that."

    "On the other hand, there are also voices saying that they want enhanced content or exclusive content for weapon production. It's a voice that never existed before... However, in Bozja we created a system where weapons could be strengthened both inside and outside of the content, but in the end it came down to efficiency. For that reason, it is difficult to know what to do with the next series, but the fact is that many players have strengthened the Manderville Weapon this time to the highest level ever."
    We knew before EW launched that there was no exploration content tied to the relic this time. Honestly, after we found out the second step was going to be another 1500 tome step we knew that relics were going to be pretty tomestone weapons this expansion instead of something you work towards achieving. You can disagree with SE's mindset towards this, God knows I do, but they have followed through on what they said we were getting this expansion for better or worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    We knew before EW launched that there was no exploration content tied to the relic this time. Honestly, after we found out the second step was going to be another 1500 tome step we knew that relics were going to be pretty tomestone weapons this expansion instead of something you work towards achieving. You can disagree with SE's mindset towards this, God knows I do, but they have followed through on what they said we were getting this expansion for better or worse.
    i mean weve been unhappy with it from the start, not sure what the point of the reply is meant to make. weve never supported it. its now that 6 months has passed, players anger is finally getting louder. i guess because its getting harder for people to yell over them or tell them to touch grass
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    i mean weve been unhappy with it from the start, not sure what the point of the reply is meant to make. weve never supported it. its now that 6 months has passed, players anger is finally getting louder. i guess because its getting harder for people to yell over them or tell them to touch grass
    As Aveyond said they think it's a success on their end because of the "engagement" with more people having relics and that they are drawing the wrong conclusion from that. Why would they feel the need to apologize for something they probably think is very successful?
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