FFXIV Job Design Feedback

[Renathras]

Raikai: Well, DNC is, of the Ranged, the one right now least in need of any aid. I do agree it would be an interesting bit of flavor utility. But then, Monk in FFTactics had a (somewhat hit or miss) raise, the Revive ability. But despite it being thematic, it isn't in FFXIV. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, it just seems that DNC is the Ranged least in need of it. (BEFORE they (re)added MCH's Disassemble, I would have thought it getting a AED/Defibrilate or something would have made sense, but it seems to be doing a lot better now.)

Ty: It wasn't bad at all, and the data was useful, even with the caveats I've mentioned before. I think a few "lessons learned" could go a long way to making your next iteration even better. Some things are just hard to sus out of people (e.g. did SMN get low marks because people genuinely don't like it, because people that liked old SMN are upset and give it low marks regardless of how good it is because they blame it for losing the version they loved, or people who oppose "dumbing down" of the game in general giving it low marks regardless of the merits of the Job itself - it's VERY hard to actually tease out an answer to that). And it's also hard to control for samples (e.g. BLM is the least popular Job in the game excepting possibly MNK, and yet gets the highest rating of all Jobs in this survey, indicating either the sample was significantly different than the playerbase at large or included a lot of people that really like BLM in it somehow and/or the bulk of the people that rated BLM were those who like it with those that do not largely abstaining from it). And We've mentioned the issue of 1-10 vs 0-10 before, as well as how things like minor/major/total rework are...uh...vague and mean different things to different people.

But notwithstanding that, I still think you did a good job and I felt the results were interesting to read through and consider. A poll doesn't have to be perfect to still be useful.

I'd 100% support another in the future, and I think you're right that around the Media Tour would be a good time to see people's first impressions, and possibly a month or two after 7.0 launch itself to see how people feel with the Jobs once they've been released. Sort of a comparison of "what we thought it would be like" and "what it actually was like", which are always interesting.

[Raikai]

Raikai: Well, DNC is, of the Ranged, the one right now least in need of any aid. I do agree it would be an interesting bit of flavor utility. But then, Monk in FFTactics had a (somewhat hit or miss) raise, the Revive ability. But despite it being thematic, it isn't in FFXIV. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, it just seems that DNC is the Ranged least in need of it. (BEFORE they (re)added MCH's Disassemble, I would have thought it getting a AED/Defibrilate or something would have made sense, but it seems to be doing a lot better now.)

The idea of a dance partner rez that also comes with no rez sickness seems interesting to me actually because of the selfish aspect of it rather than "Oh look how I'm helping the raises". Usually when your dance partner dies, it can be optimal to find someone else to CP until that person fully recovers from the sickness, however with this, there's once in a fight (due to the cooldown) 'chance' to overlap it, which seems to be quite a specific situation when it comes to DNCs.