Quote Originally Posted by remiff View Post
The people who like it now are generally those who don't play it much or not as their main, or those who play it because it requires no thinking, has easy optimization, and extreme mobility. Therefore, for difficult battles, it's a better choice against the red mage/black mage for learning without much hassle.
I just want to bounce on this part in particular and I'll be a little mean with possible blanket statements, but that's part of my personal experience in EW savage and ultimate so far: DNC and now especially SMN attracts a colossal amount of raiders that want to get carried by the job. I'm not just speaking about people picking up the least path of resistance, which I can understand since I play rPhys to a degree and can't be arsed with cast times or positionals (they're not what interests me in rotations), but people that literally want to get carried by the job. Every single static or group I've been in but a single one has had that SMN player that keeps everybody back, doesn't even try, is lazy, and doesn't do their homework. I don't know if it's my luck that's been absolutely atrocious, but it's been a sight to behold.

This is also what makes me oppose even harder to that terrible design philosophy advocating for easy, medium and hard jobs within roles. Not only it generates huge imbalances in job play ratios (50ish % dancers within rphys and 50ish % summoners within casters in Anabaseios? hello??), but it also inserts players with wildly different skills or involvement levels into groups that are obviously not for them, where they slip in carried by their job until it becomes a glaring issue.

Here, probably unfair, but I said it and it feels good to vent about it.

More seriously though, brainless jobs make people complacent, lazy, and entitled, and I don't believe it's good for raiding overall.