Is there no medium difficulty content or am I just too stupid?

[Rolder50]

The only thing I would qualify as medium difficulty in this game are Extreme Trials, sometimes Unreal (depends on the trial and sync), first and maybe second floor of Savage. Problem is, that is extremely little, especially when patches are so far apart.

[Raven2014]

The only thing I would qualify as medium difficulty in this game are Extreme Trials, sometimes Unreal (depends on the trial and sync), first and maybe second floor of Savage. Problem is, that is extremely little, especially when patches are so far apart.

Well, when you put it that way then the Hardcore group actually have even better ground to make complain because they even have less content. 'Cause that just leave them with the last 2 floors of savage and ultimate ... with the last one only touched by an extremely small amount of people.

While I understand the desire to have more content in the area of your interest, it's worth to remember FF14 is a game that's like a cake that try to server "everyone". So naturally everyone will get a smaller slice then they would normally get had the game catered to their specific group. And asking for your slice to be bigger is the same as asking other people to receive a smaller slice.

Rather instead of asking for a bigger slice, I get better millage by be able to eat more than one slice. Tbh casual, midcore, hardcore mean little to me in this game because I dive into and enjoy all of them equally. So any quantitative difference between them, if exists, doesn't mean much. On the other hand, if someone for "any reason" restrict and/or limit themselves to just some very specific slice of the FF14 cakes ... I don't think it's the game's fault they don't feel full after eating.

[Rolder50]

Well, when you put it that way then the Hardcore group actually have even better ground to make complain because they even have less content. 'Cause that just leave them with the last 2 floors of savage and ultimate ... with the last one only touched by an extremely small amount of people.

While I understand the desire to have more content in the area of your interest, it's worth to remember FF14 is a game that's like a cake that try to server "everyone". So naturally everyone will get a smaller slice then they would normally get had the game catered to their specific group. And asking for your slice to be bigger is the same as asking other people to receive a smaller slice.

Rather instead of asking for a bigger slice, I get better millage by be able to eat more than one slice. Tbh casual, midcore, hardcore mean little to me in this game because I dive into and enjoy all of them equally. So any quantitative difference between them, if exists, doesn't mean much. On the other hand, if someone for "any reason" restrict and/or limit themselves to just some very specific slice of the FF14 cakes ... I don't think it's the game's fault they don't feel full after eating.

First couple floors of savage or a hard thing to gauge; it really depends on the person. But with the amount of time savage can take and especially ultimate, I think it's fine.

But anyway the biggest issue is that the lower end stuff is almost entirely one and done with no replayability value. If we're going food metaphors, it's like you finished your meal and want seconds, but the kitchen is empty.

[Raven2014]

But anyway the biggest issue is that the lower end stuff is almost entirely one and done with no replayability value. If we're going food metaphors, it's like you finished your meal and want seconds, but the kitchen is empty.

But that only if you want the same dish though, whether FF14 is more like a full course meal. Like, you finish the appetizer and want a 2nd serving, then yeah the kitchen won't have one, but not because you don't have anything left to eat, but because you're supposed to move to the next dish in the course. Which is exactly my point.

For example: I don't EX is short or 1 shot content, unless you're extremely lucky and get the mount early. For most people, it's a 50 fights marathon (with some turn into a sprint). Usually by the time I finish farming the EX, the next content will start, like in this case savage. It will keep me occupied for a time. By the time I round up savage, usually the next EX or 24 men will be around the corner. And that's not taking into other stuffs in between like Criterion in this expansion or the Relic grind in previous expansion.

So like I said, if you're someone who can get into more than a few type contents, you get the most out of the game. FF14 is more of a full-course meal rather than a buffet, and definitely not a specialized restaurant.

[WhataCrow]

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I kinda both agree and doubt with Raven, most of EXs or even early Savage wouldn't need static and scheduling, especially those old content
while I dobut about the time cost even it's understandable for the message length
(it's oftenly not for those party still need to practice of anything, which I would said even 1-3 times re-enter for some EXs & party is not that unfair)

I think one of biggest problem is that FF14 don't really give player a good answer of how they able to start with
and people's advices could be very different, make things only become more complex
(such as recommand everyone unsync as much as possible til EW/currently patch, so they can reach other players)
even EXs, there's some that fairly easy and friendly to begin, such as ARR EX and those old conent before x.2-4 (becuase of max ilvl),
yet also there's something they can give you good challenging, and ranking would very different depend ilvl, party and patch changes.
(rip falling off cliff, I will miss you)

and when people want to begin with, it's really not rare that they would have to traveling between DC for PF even in the weekend, especially many of easier EX/Savage often are old content,
yes, people who tried often end up having CWLS, Discord, FC or static, yet it become other circle becuase the original group's demand might be saturated, so there's always needed of new bloods to make it alive.

which why I think / agree with other's opinion that bring back hard mode to live with lower max ilvl require could be a solution,
so people wouldn't afraid of it in daily roulette, story-mainly players can be clear without (or very few) wipe,
when the time cost is expectable low, people who better as like you might also have higher chance willing to join or help than a off-patch sync or MINE pf,
and people can also understand those mechs better since currently most of NM&HM related are not... really that helpful imo.
hope SE would at least have some QoL improve to these in the future

But anyway the biggest issue is that the lower end stuff is almost entirely one and done with no replayability value. If we're going food metaphors, it's like you finished your meal and want seconds, but the kitchen is empty.

totally agree (to both actually, I like taste too much side of this cake, so I have bias. lol


or there's may have it (in kitchen), but it's piles of foods in the fridge and you don't know if some of it was expired (tons of content yet they might having trouble to find what's good to start with)
since many of our experiences are quite different, some are MMOs, FF or RPG fans, some love optimize data and meta,
some are game devs, music composer... etc who curious about sth. and there's someone's grandpa and grandma who hype to joining the race (half joke)
so our understanding could be quite different too