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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I think the problem here is in the environment 14 has cultivated over the years if your definition of midcore involves basically having no preplanning no communication and no outside discussion tools, just pugging in instance then really the only content devs can make that satisfy’s that is your difficult alliance raid bosses like Diablo

    Even pugging easy extremes generally have FOMO and is server time dependant and a lot of people will still want to communicate

    That’s a very limited window for what defines midcore (note I’m not saying you are wrong for having this opinion)
    Just stating how I feel. I'm not saying people can't watch guides or anything to pre-plan/ prepare. I do that even for normals. But at the point where I have to schedule on my calendar a time I have to be available, it's no longer mid-core to me. It's hard-core to get to the point where the game has become such a priority you have to cancel plans or not make plans at certain times because you have to be online with your pre-made.

    So yes I think there can be some pre-planning. The content can also require that you get a certain level of gear that isn't 40 ilvls behind current gear. Like needing 640 or 645 for current content. And you can communicate with tools in game, so I didn't say no communication.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zairava View Post
    I want to have the need for communication, organization and pre-planning just without having to make a set schedule for it, that's about it for me when it comes to that topic.

    An example is taking dispel before fighting Ovni in Hydatos because it's required for at least one person to bring it so everybody doesn't die.
    Sorry - out of posts. I think this is fair. I could compromise on communication tools - but for me the hard line is needing a static and scheduling my life around one.

    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    People want no outside discussion tools required because then all control goes outside the window, you lose all protections that the TOS normally gives, since SE typically punts all out of game conflict to the players to handle.
    Honestly this didn't even cross my mind. I was more concerned with having to coordinate personal accounts outside FFXIV that I'd rather not have to share with people for mid-core content. I'm not even personally adverse to parses - I personally like them. And I think mid-core content should be challenging enough that people need to perform at a certain level. But I know parses are against the TOS so I guess finding a way to guarantee performance just isn't possible unless that rule changed.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 09-11-2023 at 08:17 AM.