My concerns about a "worldless model" what are yours?

[Aldwin]

Pretty much exactly this^

A lot of people I know only play with others in th LS and avoid randoms like the plague, myself included. It won't affect people who only play with their LS/friends anyway. Therein lies the solution if you don't want to use the content finder. Make some friends or get into an active LS. At that point it doesn't matter what anyone else on any other server is doing, you will have people to play with.

The ONLY way I would have an issue with the content finder is if there were events that you were REQUIRED to queue up for and had no choice to just go with a party of friends/LS mates. If I am ever FORCED to use it I will have an issue with it. There is no evidence suggesting such a thing would happen though.

I agree with what you're saying here, but the argument I think a few, including myself are trying to make ( and this is purely opinion ) is that the dungeon finder system can slowly destory just what you are saying. Yes atm people pretty much only do things with their ls. Lets stop for a second, reset the game, start it with dungeon finder. I personally don't think all of those same people, will revert back to only doing things with their ls. They don't have to anymore. Now, instead of grouping up with people of like minds who are already in their ls, they can just random que. I'm not saying everyone would follow the trend, but I think XIVs people atm like you are describing are how they are, in part, because there is no dungeon finder.

[Aldwin]

I'd also like to say (again, all my opinion only) that there is quite a few things from wow that I always wished were in xi, and that I wish now were in xiv (I use wow as an example because it has stream lined the mmo standard, I think this is a fact). One thing though, I do not wish xiv, or any mmo to come to adopt, is wow's community. The community in xi was the single greatest part of the game (again, my opninion). Camping hnms for hours was horrible, logging in and waiting for hours to form groups was stupid. But the community that game created was amazing. I'm not saying "omg don't add dungeon finder", i'm merely trying to make the argument for others to consider the implications it might add.

[Arcell]

I agree with what you're saying here, but the argument I think a few, including myself are trying to make ( and this is purely opinion ) is that the dungeon finder system can slowly destory just what you are saying. Yes atm people pretty much only do things with their ls. Lets stop for a second, reset the game, start it with dungeon finder. I personally don't think all of those same people, will revert back to only doing things with their ls. They don't have to anymore. Now, instead of grouping up with people of like minds who are already in their ls, they can just random que. I'm not saying everyone would follow the trend, but I think XIVs people atm like you are describing are how they are, in part, because there is no dungeon finder.

I don't know, I mean people will always come together and form groups like Linkshells regardless of the game and systems in it. I mean people in WoW still make and use guilds all the time. Everyone I know who plays WoW plays almost exclusively with their guild. Plus with Free Companies coming, and all their benefits, it would only make sense that people will continue making, joining and playing within these Free Companies and Linkshells. Just because people can play without a Linkshell/Company doesn't mean they will.

Even in lobby-based games with limited to no guild features and absolutely no reason to do so, people still create them. Most people enjoy having a group of friends and people they can rely on to play with. I mean I know I avoid randoms entirely because I just don't trust anyone off the street to know how to play well, and often I'm right. I know people who had random parties struggle with Ifrit or even the ogre in Darkhold. If I were to do those things with a group from my LS, I know we would be assured swift victory because I know that those people know what they're doing.

[AlexNiculaie]

Upset? If anything I am just amused at how childish people get over inconsequential things. When someone starts crying that the game is now going to be lobby based, or that no-one will ever want to interact with their own world, they're being overdramatic. Greatly overdramatic.