I don't love Zepla. I don't hate Ren. I don't know why on page 80+ a summation of a video that is the topic of the thread needs to be given.

My long post was to mirror you. Didn't expect it to work that well.

I insulted you and others when they insulted me first. Not the best or nicest way to react but i at least didn't start the fire. Maybe you should read your gaslighting in your post or just read them to someone if you don't feel what you write has insults in it. To me it has. A lot of gaslighting, insults, elitism combined with assumptions about everyone else. I kept my assumptions low.

About the points.Yes i sometimes disagreed with Zepla. So? Isn't that the discussion you wanted?

I did assume you aggree with here when you didn't say otherwise. Apparently that was not the case since you harp on about me calling you out for things she said. I responded to the text. I'd assume you wouldn't mix your opinion and Zepla's takes that wildly. I don't know why you did. Your long post has Zepla's takes AND your opinion sprinkled in. What use that it have then? Realistically i would only need one of the 2. Keeping them seperate might help. On point 13 for example i did respond to you though? I mean you wrote that you aggree with here there specifically, so i don't get how that point should be seen as only Zepla's opinion.

People "having to come up" with reasons to play, what Zepla suggests is imho a bad take. Why? It sounds like it's my obligation to make the game fun for me. That in itself isn't so bad, but... i could just cancel my sub and finally play all those other games i have, or read more, or watch that show... you get my point. In this age that is just a weak argument imho.

"Note i didn't include an insult in that paragraph" - Yep that's why I said it's several paragraphs later

The only reasons i called you out for proof is you putting words in people's mouths while saying others - like me - are not allowed to speak for groups / everyone. Why do you get to state your assumptions but no one else?