Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[Nebelheim]

The preface he started with wasn't his. It was Zepla's own preface - but he cut it down in size.

Ren and I will both get "wordy" at times but it's probably because we have a different educational background from most here in the forums. I was taught to be detailed in my arguments. Evidently the generation raised on social media can't handle that.

It is what it is. It doesn't help that we're generally on opposite sides of the fence in a discussion, which makes them even less interested in trying to understand the other's point of view.

So you essentially think people on the forums are uneducated morons because all of us don't write 100k word responses and think your more educated and above everyone else.

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

My very own insult :*
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[ZephyrMenodora]

So you essentially think people on the forums are uneducated morons because all of us don't write 100k word responses and think your more educated and above everyone else.

Hilarious. I'm also probably the wrong person to try to use education on lol.

The preface he started with wasn't his. It was Zepla's own preface - but he cut it down in size.

Yup, he corrected me in a shorter post that I did read lol. That said, can you really blame me for assuming - his post was long enough it very well could have used a preface.

Ren and I will both get "wordy" at times but it's probably because we have a different educational background from most here in the forums. I was taught to be detailed in my arguments. Evidently the generation raised on social media can't handle that.

In my education, I was taught to be concise and to know my audience. This is a gaming forum, not a professional debate or a trial.

Some may have the attention span to read very long posts that have 20 points or however many there were; but more likely than not you will just lose your reader entirely if you don't choose your battles and prioritize the most important points.

[Theodric]

I went to school in the 70s. When did you?

Trust me, the education system these days is very different from what it was for my generation. Ask your parents or your grandparents.

I think that's quite the stretch. You don't really know anything about individual posters that you're making assumptions about in terms of their age, education level and which country they were raised in.

To say nothing of the fact that there's plenty of individuals who are essentially 'self taught' and pretty intelligent/eloquent despite not having a piece of paper from a fancy university.

It's also a video game at the end of the day, so a lot of people deliberately don't treat discussion of it as something to take extremely seriously absolutely all of the time. Especially when there's a historic trend of silence from the community representatives who - in an ideal world - would be active participants in the discussions themselves.

[BRVV]

Challenge for you - pull up Zepla's video and watch it again. Put Ren's post to the side so you can compare.

Which is the long winded one?


I went to school in the 70s. When did you?

Trust me, the education system these days is very different from what it was for my generation. Ask your parents or your grandparents.

I know. You would know that i know if you would have read my long post but i guess you are not interested in that discussion. Never talking about the topic you claim to want to discuss

[MintnHoney]

Ren and I will both get "wordy" at times but it's probably because we have a different educational background from most here in the forums. I was taught to be detailed in my arguments. Evidently the generation raised on social media can't handle that.

Oh sure. I'm also sure that everyone will appreciate the condescension and eventually just stop arguing with whatever you say because you had a "different educational background."

[OgruMogru]

Challenge for you - pull up Zepla's video and watch it again. Put Ren's post to the side so you can compare.

Which is the long winded one?


I went to school in the 70s. When did you?

Trust me, the education system these days is very different from what it was for my generation. Ask your parents or your grandparents.

Ok boomer.

[EZGIL]

[ChrysOCE]

Ren and I will both get "wordy" at times but it's probably because we have a different educational background from most here in the forums. I was taught to be detailed in my arguments. Evidently the generation raised on social media can't handle that.

Oh, please. I had my schooling before social media. It has nothing to do with educational background. They cannot get their point across without resorting to dissertation length posts. It's ridiculous and most people just aren't going to bother. The difference between that and Zepla, you can watch/listen to someone speak for 30 min, easy. Hearing someone talk is a lot different to reading through some verbose argument that doesn't actually add anything. Also, I would note, even though, I think, they agree broadly with Zepla, they still can't help but comment on on her personally.
Discuss the bloody point, not Zeplas tone or hand movements or some imagined psych 101 eval on her state of mind.

[Jeeqbit]

Ren and I will both get "wordy" at times but it's probably because we have a different educational background from most here in the forums. I was taught to be detailed in my arguments.

My background is learning science, so I was taught the opposite (for writing summaries of findings): be concise and try to say the exact same thing but with less words.

If you go through what you've written, you can usually find a word that will sufficiently convey a whole sentence. In other cases, there can be sentences that are obvious to your target audience or a word you wrote will remind them of the entire context so that you don't have to write it. You can also find a lot of words that are flat out unnecessary, because the English language contains a lot of bloat that other languages don't such as "what are the directions to the station?" while in another language you could walk up to someone and say "station?" and the rest is kind of obvious.

Usually if I end up writing a lot here it's because the original post is large as well. I try to keep at about medium here at most.