Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[Renathras]

I did watch the whole thing...

I'm going to ignore you constantly throwing insults like you genuinely are unable to help it and instead note that your own reply - going point by point - was nearly as long as mine (and that post was longer since you replied to several posts), so clearly "long post" seems to be needed even by you to discuss the points.

But hey, you ACTUALLY mentioned the points, which is what I wanna do, too, so let's go with that!

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1) That was literally my point. Did you not read two lines above that where I said in order to discuss Zepla's points, we needed to distill down what her points actually were? "Watch the video and discuss her points!" Okay, which points? What are her points? "WATCH THE VIDEO!" 'watch the video' is not a point. I outright said I was going to list her points. So you can't get onto me for doing the very thing I said I was going to do and that needed done.

2) Indeed. That's the point. It's not exactly a negative when it's a positive to some people.

3) "You just recap Zepla's points", do I need to tell you to read again? (Okay, so far you aren't really discussing her points so much as you're attacking my post...maybe it'll get better, let's find out!)

4) (Okay, not getting any better). I'm literally going through her video. If you have a problem with how she presented her points, attack Zepla for that. And nobody asks you to reply to a single one of my posts with insults, yet you seem content to do it unasked. At least my unasked actions are discussing THE LITERAL TOPIC OF THE THREAD.

5) "I guess it would weaken your point" - I'm sure you'll get there eventually, but perhaps you'd notice where she talks about that later and so I mention it later? My god, man, you're desperate for things to attack me over.

6) Again, if you have issue here, take it up with Zepla.

7) That's the question, isn't it?

8) Shocker? I say it all the time. I know you don't read my posts, as if you did, you'd know that already.

9) Again, this is a Zepla point. So you disagree with Zepla? I agree with her on Exploration Zone content. I think it's good because it gives people something to spend time on if they want it but it's not mandatory/MSQ, meaning people aren't forced to if they genuinely don't enjoy it. That's the secret to good game design. Have a lot of stuff for people to do that they can really spend some time on, but that's not mandatory so people engage in what they enjoy. It seems, btw, from one of Yoshi P's interviews, that they are leaning towards having another Exploration Zone in 7.X, so that'll hopefully be a thing and maybe people will appreciate it this time.

10) Hm? ZEPLA called out people saying that, I just repeated her. Are you REALLY this desperate to attack me? I mean, I say all the time some people here seem desperate to find anything they can to attack me over, but you're putting it to the proof.

11) "You just restate her stuff and add a tiny bit" - THAT WAS LITERALLY THE OBJECTIVE. Again, if you can't read things, it's hard to have conversations. I don't disagree with you on the pacing, btw. More balancing it out would be nice. On the other hand, "We're doing the FF4 story in FF14" was always going to be kind of predictable due to the nature of it. Hopefully they won't do that again in the future or will stick that kinda stuff to side stories.

12) What are you talking about? That was Zepla's point, not mine. So you disagree with Zepla now? I mean, it's fine if you disagree with Zepla, but understand you're disagreeing with Zepla (who you seem to love in this thread) not with Ren (who you seem to hate).

13) I don't mind you repeating yourself, but I have to repeat myself: What are you talking about? That was Zepla's point, not mine. So you disagree with Zepla now? I mean, it's fine if you disagree with Zepla, but understand you're disagreeing with Zepla (who you seem to love in this thread) not with Ren (who you seem to hate).

14) Find me a person here who likes the 2 min meta. I also think, of ALL things to go after me for, this is the weakest. Especially since I didn't say everyone hated it: "I think this is the single most universal complaint in EW. While there are a few people that try to defend it, the single closest thing to "literally (almost) everyone agrees" is probably that players overall seem to dislike the 2 min meta." "most universal" not universal, "there are a few people that try to defend it" acknowledging there is some minor disagreement, but that this is the "closest" thing to everyone agreeing with you're likely to find.

15) "Factually wrong" - then tell Zepla. She was the one that said you couldn't use it for leveling.

16) Stylistic complaints, you have a-plenty. The stuff right before were all quotes but I didn't want to "X...and Y also...Z", but whatever. Yay, something we agree on, even if you couldn't just say "I agree" without finding something to attack me over.

17) "Yeah she mainly plays CC, we know" - who is this "we" of whom you speak? I didn't know, and all the people in this thread saying they don't watch or listen to Zepla ordinarily likely didn't know, either. The irony? I actually agree with you here; I don't do CC at all, ranked or unranked, and just do FL (RW when there's an event, though I haven't done it yet in this latest Moogle Tome event), and I think it's a crying shame they don't seem to care much about FL balance or imbalance being all over the place, despite it being so consumed. I'd say it's probably the thing most casual PvP people dip their toes in...but I don't want you to DEMAND I provide a citation on this thing you agree with or you'll hammer me over it, so I just won't say it.

18) "Man if you wouldn't have made an insult in the same post that would have been a good point." - are you addressing this to Zepla or to my criticism of her doing it? Note I didn't include an insult in that paragraph.

19) Sorta, though it seems she thinks it's partly Yoshi P being stretched too thin by the company.

20) I mean, her take there seems to be moderate and nuanced. Not sure why one wouldn't like it, but...could you explain what you disliked about it?

21) Honestly? I don't know what people like about Ultimates. They seem to be longer, even more unforgiving Savages that have a neat story but you can't really enjoy in the middle of the fight and have to watch videos of people doing it (or your own recordings) after to see all the emotes and dialogue and stuff. I do understand the feeling, though, of doing something few have done, seeing things few have seen, and being one of the first people into something. I feel that way logging in the day of a new Exploration Zone and heading in for the first time, getting the levels to go to the new areas, etc. Add to that that people that have a close group they play and prog with get to spend time together that way. So I understand it from that perspective. What I don't understand is why one would be fun and another not, since they offer that same general experience, other than the mechanics being fun vs annoying. But again, I don't do Ultimtes, so I simply am willing to take her word on that one. I don't think it's unfair to defer to an expert about something one doesn't engage with personally, and despite common belief around here, I do defer to people when it comes to things I genuinely haven't and don't do and don't derive enjoyment from.

22) That's actually a really good question. I guess we'll have to wait for her next video to see what she defines as casual content? I guarantee you it won't just be MSQ, though, since she mentioned the relic grind/Exploration Zones typically being casual content earlier in the video...

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You know, you started off kind of hard, but towards the end...those are some good replies and some good points to talk about.

"Ren will probably be like "What i got to read others posts now???"" - I literally read your whole post and responded point by point to the discussion topics, despite having to ignore and step around all the insults along the way. As it turns out, I can take it (long posts) as well as I can dish it out. Go figure.