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    Quote Originally Posted by Zairava View Post
    Things changing in education and with the times is nothing new and is inevitable.
    Exactly.

    Not sure why anyone took offense at my use of the word "different". Different doesn't mean bad, inferior, or anything negative. It just means different.

    Was it the comment about social media? In my experience, there is truth in it. Perhaps someone else's experience is different. Again, different. Not bad, not inferior. Just different.

    If you can accept that others are different with different experiences, different opinions and different ways of doing things, it's fairly easy to get along.

    Unfortunately, there are a handful of posters here that are all too happy to immediately attack others who are different or who don't share the same opinion instead of saying "I disagree" and moving on. Human nature being what it is, those attacked eventually respond in kind. We get these threads blowing up into 100+ pages of nothing constructive because people would rather engage in mudslinging than discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    To be fair jojoya generally holds opinions that I don’t agree with but is mostly respectful, but defending quite possibly the longest post I have ever seen of ren’s with “we are just smarter than you” was always going to be a recipe to get dogpilled
    Which is not what I said at all. It's like people were looking for an excuse to get offended.

    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    After most my points fit more into derailing, i present you my take ... that has almost nothing to do with Zepla's video...

    What i miss is things to do for the hardcore players, even though i am not one of them. I see people in my FC taking breaks or quitting entirely because they have nothing to do. The other things are longer time between patches and the predictability.

    If the next deep dungeon is just gonna be another PotD with another animal transformation than what is the point? They seem to get too save with all of these. Like running the checklist.

    In contrast we have new stuff like IS and VD/CD. Little rewards and no (big) group content... meh.

    I personally would love a creative mode. A dungeon creator or something. Just look at Minecraft, Little Big Planet and so on. The devs of those games made the individual elements while the players create their own game. I feel like something in this direction will be good for FFXIV, because:
    • We don't need big rewards for a creative mode: the mode itself - like creating dungeons and running them or make your own village IS the reward, therefore no fomo
    • It provides something different to MSQ or Raids etc that always need writers and events and gear you can get... so it hopefully needs less dev time in the long run
    • It can expand the "themepark mmo" idea even more
    Out of curiosity, what is bad about having nothing to do FFXIV? It means an opportunity to play a different game.

    I've got friends that frequently bring up their backlog of games they want to get to. They appreciate being able to take a break from FFXIV to play those other games.

    As for a creative mode, it's why I would love to see the housing system overhauled. We're pretty limited here compared to what some other games have offered.

    When it comes to dungeons, I think that would be more complicated to accomplish here than in Minecraft and similar games (I'm familiar with dungeon creation in Trove). I'm not sure it could be pulled off in a way that would be satisficing for both creators and users.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Exactly.

    Not sure why anyone took offense at my use of the word "different". Different doesn't mean bad, inferior, or anything negative. It just means different.

    Was it the comment about social media? In my experience, there is truth in it. Perhaps someone else's experience is different. Again, different. Not bad, not inferior. Just different.

    If you can accept that others are different with different experiences, different opinions and different ways of doing things, it's fairly easy to get along.

    Unfortunately, there are a handful of posters here that are all too happy to immediately attack others who are different or who don't share the same opinion instead of saying "I disagree" and moving on. Human nature being what it is, those attacked eventually respond in kind. We get these threads blowing up into 100+ pages of nothing constructive because people would rather engage in mudslinging than discussion.


    Which is not what I said at all. It's like people were looking for an excuse to get offended.
    “We have different educations, standards were different back then”

    Nah bro I’m totally not saying I’m just smarter than you

    Don’t try to pretend that 70’s education valued long form commentary over knowing what the word synopsis means, you just wanted a thinly veiled way to say you are better than us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    “We have different educations, standards were different back then”

    Nah bro I’m totally not saying I’m just smarter than you

    Don’t try to pretend that 70’s education valued long form commentary over knowing what the word synopsis means, you just wanted a thinly veiled way to say you are better than us
    Again, that's you looking for reasons to take offense and not me trying to give it.

    Things were different and so I do things differently. Is that genuinely so hard to understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Again, that's you looking for reasons to take offense and not me trying to give it.

    Things were different and so I do things differently. Is that genuinely so hard to understand?
    Whatever your intentions were, and whether you realize it or not, you really were coming across this way. If that wasn't intended, no harm no foul. But it was pretty easy to take it the way that people are.
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Again, that's you looking for reasons to take offense and not me trying to give it.

    Things were different and so I do things differently. Is that genuinely so hard to understand?
    Not only do you basically call people stupid and "not on your level of education", you also have takes like this :

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Out of curiosity, what is bad about having nothing to do FFXIV? It means an opportunity to play a different game.
    And you wonder why people dont take you seriously
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaD View Post
    Not only do you basically call people stupid and "not on your level of education", you also have takes like this :



    And you wonder why people dont take you seriously
    Omg the other games thing I thought was mostly parody. Whaaat….oh how you doing btw other me….or am I other you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Out of curiosity, what is bad about having nothing to do FFXIV? It means an opportunity to play a different game.

    I've got friends that frequently bring up their backlog of games they want to get to. They appreciate being able to take a break from FFXIV to play those other games.

    As for a creative mode, it's why I would love to see the housing system overhauled. We're pretty limited here compared to what some other games have offered.

    When it comes to dungeons, I think that would be more complicated to accomplish here than in Minecraft and similar games (I'm familiar with dungeon creation in Trove). I'm not sure it could be pulled off in a way that would be satisficing for both creators and users.
    Nothing is wrong with that. I would just assume SE wouldn't play assist on that and about the creative modes... yeah they would probably need a few patches to get a version that is liked by the community but they should still try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Nothing is wrong with that. I would just assume SE wouldn't play assist on that and about the creative modes... yeah they would probably need a few patches to get a version that is liked by the community but they should still try.
    Most gaming executives wouldn't want to play assist. I think this is one area where YoshiP is using his personal experience as a gamer to influence design.

    He loves playing a lot of different games and to some degree FFXIV has benefited from that. He wants players to be able to enjoy FFXIV while also still getting to play other games.

    It can be a way to build customer loyalty, counterintuitive as that might be to some. The game respects that players have other interests and so players will choose to return in the future because they want to, not because they fear falling too far behind others. (I know some would bring up "housing" here but there's been plenty of discussion on that problem elsewhere)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Exactly.

    Not sure why anyone took offense at my use of the word "different". Different doesn't mean bad, inferior, or anything negative. It just means different.

    Was it the comment about social media? In my experience, there is truth in it. Perhaps someone else's experience is different. Again, different. Not bad, not inferior. Just different.

    If you can accept that others are different with different experiences, different opinions and different ways of doing things, it's fairly easy to get along.

    Unfortunately, there are a handful of posters here that are all too happy to immediately attack others who are different or who don't share the same opinion instead of saying "I disagree" and moving on. Human nature being what it is, those attacked eventually respond in kind. We get these threads blowing up into 100+ pages of nothing constructive because people would rather engage in mudslinging than discussion.


    Which is not what I said at all. It's like people were looking for an excuse to get offended.


    Out of curiosity, what is bad about having nothing to do FFXIV? It means an opportunity to play a different game.

    I've got friends that frequently bring up their backlog of games they want to get to. They appreciate being able to take a break from FFXIV to play those other games.

    As for a creative mode, it's why I would love to see the housing system overhauled. We're pretty limited here compared to what some other games have offered.

    When it comes to dungeons, I think that would be more complicated to accomplish here than in Minecraft and similar games (I'm familiar with dungeon creation in Trove). I'm not sure it could be pulled off in a way that would be satisficing for both creators and users.
    Out of curiosity, what is bad about having nothing to do FFXIV? It means an opportunity to play a different game.
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