I'm bored when I heal because I need more complex DPS rotations

[Supersnow845]

Maybe the healbot(s) are different from server to server?,
it seems the most common type is WHM,but last one i meet.. was a SGE.. hmmm

That’s got nothing to do with his point; the point is that sylphies as it is struggle to press any buttons anyway and spend half the fight idling or pushing the “wrong” healing buttons (medica 2 to heal 1 party member anyone), while DPS healers are already juggling damage with their oGCD’s

If you made healing so much more needed you were playing HP whack a mole who would you trust more, the DPS healer with 98% uptime who can smoothly transition from glare spam to medica spam, or the sylphie with 40% uptime placing regen on the SMN who’s been full health for the last 2 minutes

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Maybe the healbot(s) are different from server to server?,
it seems the most common type is WHM,but last one i meet.. was a SGE.. hmmm

I wasn't referring about their choice of healer. It's more about their general response toward initial sign of pressure. I wrote Malefic & Asp Helios in my replies earlier only because I see you're an AST main on your forum profile.

Those healbots do not handle pressure really well. It doesn't matter which healer they pick. If they can't properly capitalize the use of Cure II/Benefic II/Adlo/E.Diag/Medica II/Asp Helios/E.Prog/Succor properly at the first sign of pressure(s), then it won't matter which healer they're using on hand. They're just pressing anything at that point and 'hope for the best'. If there's a WAR/PLD that threw out Shake it Off/Divine Veil to help them in a pinch, chances are good that they probably would think "Oh wow my Medica II worked!" if that somehow bailed them out.

That's the extent of their lack of awareness.

Now throw these healbots into those... hell, no need for 100% healing uptime situation, just make it 60% uptime. Oh the carnage lmao

[Aravell]

Those healbots do not handle pressure really well. It doesn't matter which healer they pick. If they can't properly capitalize the use of Cure II/Benefic II/Adlo/E.Diag/Medica II/Asp Helios/E.Prog/Succor properly at the first sign of pressure(s), then it won't matter which healer they're using on hand. They're just pressing anything at that point and 'hope for the best'. If there's a WAR/PLD that threw out Shake it Off/Divine Veil to help them in a pinch, chances are good that they probably would think "Oh wow my Medica II worked!" if that somehow bailed them out.

In my experience, people that are considered to be healbots also are incapable of raising without Swiftcast. I've ran alliance raids on a DPS job with weaker healers in the party and people who die usually stay dead for up to an entire minute with no attempt made to raise them.

[Deceptus]

That’s got nothing to do with his point; the point is that sylphies as it is struggle to press any buttons anyway and spend half the fight idling or pushing the “wrong” healing buttons (medica 2 to heal 1 party member anyone), while DPS healers are already juggling damage with their oGCD’s

Medica II heals for more than Cure II (1000 pot vs 800 pot), heals everyone in your group for that amount, and costs the same mana as Cure II. In most situations where you'd want Cure II (if ever), Medica II is simply better.

Blame that . . . on whoever designed the numbers. But then again, healer potencies seem to be an afterthought always.

Holy 3 only being a 10 potency "upgrade" over Holy 1

Aero 2 being the same potency as Dia on 6.1 release despite Dia costing more mana (was fixed a few weeks later)

[Supersnow845]

Medica II heals for more than Cure II, heals everyone in your group for that amount, and costs the same mana as Cure II. In most situations where you'd want Cure II (if ever), Medica II is simply better.

Blame that . . . on whoever designed the numbers

Why are you casting cure 2

[Shurrikhan]

Medica II heals for more than Cure II, heals everyone in your group for that amount, and costs the same mana as Cure II. In most situations where you'd want Cure II (if ever), Medica II is simply better.

Blame that . . . on whoever designed the numbers

Which is why I often feel like the most impactful single difference one can make on healer gameplay... is just to nerf the damn AoEs. Have half their value split among all applicable recipients, for instance, so they can actually be useful in 4-mans without being ridiculously overpowered in 8-mans.

Cure II: 800p for 1000 MP
Regen: 1500p for 400 MP
Medica II (4-man): 4000p for 1000 MP
Medica II (8-man): 8000p for 1000 MP

It should probably be more alike to...
Cure II: 800p for 600 MP
Regen: 1500 MP for 600 MP
Medica II (4-man): 3000p for 1500 MP (600p each + 1800p split to a max of 1000p each)
Medica II (8-man): 5400p for 1500 MP (600p each + 1800p split to a max of 1000p each)

Why are you casting cure 2

See the "(if ever)".

[ForsakenRoe]

Medica II heals for more than Cure II (1000 pot vs 800 pot), heals everyone in your group for that amount, and costs the same mana as Cure II. In most situations where you'd want Cure II (if ever), Medica II is simply better.

Blame that . . . on whoever designed the numbers. But then again, healer potencies seem to be an afterthought always.

Makes you wonder doesn't it, did the person who did these potency values know they were giving Medica 2 Addicts the key to vindication for their gameplay style? Was it an intentional decision by SE that Medica 2 should be not only equal in MP costs to Cure 2, but also 200p total more healing even on a single target? Or was it entirely coincidence? (the same is 'almost' true with Asp.Helios and Benefic 2, Benefic2 gets to be 100MP cheaper than AspHelios, but still 200p less healing)

Either way, since Medica 2 is equal to Medica 1 after just one tick, and with the info about how strong it is compared to Cure 2... What justification is there in keeping Cure 1 and Medica 1 as separate binds, instead of having them upgrade to their 2 forms and using the newly freed hotbar space on 'actually interesting tools'? At least Cure 3 has a niche, of 'I need burst healing right now and I'm willing to pay any amount of MP to get it'. Hell, at this point why not just buff Medica 2's ticks by another 100p, and make it 1500 so they can powercreep Regen out of the game too while they're at it /s

[Renalt]

Healing aggro still exists right? Or is there no real punishment for overhealing now?

[Aravell]

Healing aggro still exists right? Or is there no real punishment for overhealing now?

No, it does not. You can Regen a tank as they pull and no longer get your face bashed in.

[VentVanitas]

No, it does not. You can Regen a tank as they pull and no longer get your face bashed in.

which makes me incredibly sad because I miss the time in the first trash pull of Orbonne where any WHM that dared cast Regen would immediately get vaporized by 8 skeletons.