You need to give up on XI-2

[Sagagemini]

Ok, i give up! But only because you said so.

[Rydin]

I swear to God I opened this thread up thinking it was a necro bump or something...
I was like "No way this is a new thread"
and yet... here it is

Thriller popcorn... nice... I approve

[Yves]

Here is something to think about. Ask anyone who is playing FFXIV almost all of them have played FFXI. Which is one of the problems with FFXIV pretty much only has attracted FFXI players.

Big part of the situation. Although, I think FF has a tendency to repel other MMO players to a degree, as well. Our playerbase is known for being fickle and elitist. Whether or not this is true is up for debate.

[Zezlar]

I will not.

[Xatsh]

I will stop posting wanting elements from XI when the community stop pushing FF-WoW ONLY!!!11!.

It works both ways.

Mainstream style is garenteed to fail and XI is garenteed to only keep a small playerbase(aka fail).

They need to find the right mixture to keep the hardcores, XI diehards, and casual mainstream ppl happy or the game will just fall apart. They have work to do... considering no mmo has ever accomplished this.

[ThePatriarch]

Why are people so narrow-minded?

This is a Final Fantasy Title.

So what if it borrows idea from another Final Fantasy title. It is, after all, a franchise. And why is it limited solely to XI, what if this game takes an idea from Final Fantasy 8?

OH NO THEY ARE MAKING A FLYING SCHOOL. BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT

I do promote these threads because it gives me some entertainment at work.

[Rydin]

I will stop posting wanting elements from XI when the community stop pushing FF-WoW ONLY!!!11!.

It works both ways.

Mainstream style is garenteed to fail and XI is garenteed to only keep a small playerbase(aka fail).

They need to find the right mixture to keep the hardcores, XI diehards, and casual mainstream ppl happy or the game will just fall apart. They have work to do... considering no mmo has ever accomplished this.

Which begs the question... Is it even possible?
I'd like to think so... but maybe only time will tell

[Rydin]

Why are people so narrow-minded?

This is a Final Fantasy Title.

So what if it borrows idea from another Final Fantasy title. It is, after all, a franchise. And why is it limited solely to XI, what if this game takes an idea from Final Fantasy 8?

OH NO THEY ARE MAKING A FLYING SCHOOL. BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT

I do promote these threads because it gives me some entertainment at work.

FFVIII was funny... Cid's ex went nuts, and to help him deal, he spreads his seeds all over the world....
nice

[bobbygunz]

Have you played this game when it launched? He fixed a lot of things, it's 1000 times better then it used to be. It's not as good as it should be yet. There's a lot less complains for this game after each patch, some are actually enjoing it the way it is now. He may have a lot invested in 2.0 but he done a lot too since he took over.

I'm not saying he is a bad director, but you realise this game was released in september 2010, right? By Rise of Zilart standards, if I can make a comparison, i.e., the western release of ffxi, content in FFXI was basically doubled since JP release. So within a year, there were huge improvements to the game. The staff upheaval when Tanaka stood down may have actually crippled progress for FFXIV for all we know. I mean, in FFXIV, we've had some improvements, but no new areas that weren't already in the dats since the official release date. There's been progress made, but come on, not as much as you'd expect for 2 years of continued development.

I realise it's an uncommon situation since most of the progress they've made is still under wraps, and that's my point, we haven't even seen their progress, so you can't act like Yoshi has proved himself the amazing director everyone says he is, yet.

In fact, I think the game would be in better shape now even if Tanaka was still on board, and I say this because we would actually SEE the progress, rather than it being hidden away for 2.0. Progress was happening at a rapid pace even before Tanaka stood down. Don't you remember the rather prompt release of NMs and debugging that happened after release? They even alleviated a lot of lag? And they increased timers for food and guild facilities , etc, so already they were listening to feedback and building the game around that, and making it less punishing.

And there are still a great many complaints, today, many directed at things S.E. intends to launch with FFXIV. Just take that content finder thingy as an example.

So in conclusion, Yoshi might be good. Might be. But how do we know until 2.0?

[Rydin]

I'm not saying he is a bad director, but you realise this game was released in september 2010, right? By Rise of Zilart standards, if I can make a comparison, i.e., the western release of ffxi, content in FFXI was basically doubled since JP release. So within a year, there were huge improvements to the game. The staff upheaval when Tanaka stood down may have actually crippled progress for FFXIV for all we know. I mean, in FFXIV, we've had some improvements, but no new areas that weren't already in the dats since the official release date. There's been progress made, but come on, not as much as you'd expect for 2 years of continued development.

I realise it's an uncommon situation since most of the progress they've made is still under wraps, and that's my point, we haven't even seen their progress, so you can't act like Yoshi has proved himself the amazing director everyone says he is, yet.

In fact, I think the game would be in better shape now even if Tanaka was still on board, and I say this because we would actually SEE the progress, rather than it being hidden away for 2.0. Progress was happening at a rapid pace even before Tanaka stood down. Don't you remember the rather prompt release of NMs and debugging that happened after release? They even alleviated a lot of lag? And they increased timers for food and guild facilities , etc, so already they were listening to feedback and building the game around that, and making it less punishing.

And there are still a great many complaints, today, many directed at things S.E. intends to launch with FFXIV. Just take that content finder thingy as an example.

So in conclusion, Yoshi might be good. Might be. But how do we know until 2.0?

Tucking all the content away for 2.0 is a very bold strategy... only time will tell if it works to his advantage...
We can make predictions... but the gaming market is fickle and unpredictable...
No one knows what will happen come 2.0....
A big E3 and a strong Famitsu score will help... but it's still anyone's guess overall