Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
Wall to wall pulls is not "the bare minimum". The fact that single pulls exist shows that single pulls is the bare minimum, mostly as there's no way to actually pull less since all members of the pack will agro together.

You're asking for something above the bare minimum then lying about what the bare minimum to falsely support your position that your ask is more fair than it is. Again, you can premake groups if you want to speedrun content.
At the same time, we are talking about some people like the poster earlier in this thread who can wall to wall and simply doesn't feel like it because they want to relax.

Know what I'd find relaxing? Just standing around pressing medica 2 every 20 seconds and not using my kit. It would sure be relaxing to just randomly press whatever on a DPS and not care at all about using skills sensibly.

But at some point what would be relaxing is just being disrespectful to the 3 other people you are playing with.

Wall 2 Wall pulling is very similar in all dungeons since HW. Mostly a straight line until you can't move. Very few trash mobs have any tricks or gimmicks that change what you are actually doing, it's just a different background and different looking mobs for the most part. So I think Wall to Wall becomes a pretty basic skill for a tank to have these days. And certainly not an insurmountable challenge given the state of how dungeons are designed lately.