Thank you to YoshiP and the devs for the Rising

[RosaliaDLB]

And where do you get your data from about Mog purchases? Do you have access to any information about the ratio between player subs and Mog purchase revenue in any comparative sense? I doubt it - it's not in the financials. You bring up steamcharts but it on average still has more players than prior eras.

It has more players than in the past yes, because of the WoW exodus.

Also as I said, there are more and more mog purchases available, with less and less time between them, and of course for a higher price too.

As for their "financials" of course they wont show anything, especially regarding the playerbase, it wouldnt look good.

[ZephyrMenodora]

It has more players than in the past yes, because of the WoW exodus.

Also as I said, there are more and more mog purchases available, with less and less time between them, and of course for a higher price too.

As for their "financials" of course they wont show anything, especially regarding the playerbase, it wouldnt look good.

But you're still speculating that every mog release is a success and you are making the claim that the game is being held up by whales, when in fact the game simply has more players, more subs, and possibly more mog station purchases due to the larger playerbase.

The WoW exodus was some time ago at this point, those players have many options to play other games that aren't XIV. It's not like they had to come here or stay here in a year with quite a few high-profile games coming out to compete for player time and attention. So grats on XIV for attracting players from a competitor, due to the high quality of their game.

[RosaliaDLB]

But you're still speculating that every mog release is a success and you are making the claim that the game is being held up by whales, when in fact the game simply has more players, more subs, and possibly more mog station purchases due to the larger playerbase.

The WoW exodus was some time ago at this point, those players have many options to play other games that aren't XIV. It's not like they had to come here or stay here in a year with quite a few high-profile games coming out to compete for player time and attention. So grats on XIV for attracting players from a competitor, due to the high quality of their game.

The people FFXIV attracted, or at least a certain percentage of them, is basically just venue goers, roleplayers (ERPers too) and the likes, basically people not playing the game, so not a big loss really

Also I didnt say the game is "held up" by whales, I said there are a lot of them, of course there are more people as I just mentioned, thanks to the WoW exodus and people joining naturally as well from other games or wherever they came from

[ZephyrMenodora]

The people FFXIV attracted, or at least a certain percentage of them, is basically just venue goers, roleplayers and the likes, basically people not playing the game, so not a big loss really

Who cares why they are here. They are paying players who like certain features. Who are you, someone who said you hate nearly all content except housing, to judge others?

[RosaliaDLB]

Who cares why they are here. They are paying players who like certain features. Who are you, someone who said you hate nearly all content except housing, to judge others?

We could have a talk about what made me join the game but I dont think it'd be very appropriate especially with the great 20 messages a day quota, if you truly think I originally joined FFXIV with the idea of doing housing, you are very wrong, Shadowlands was an absolute bore, and I joined FFXIV because I wanted to do content, not do housing, but sadly I was very let down by how bad the content is in FFXIV, it's just plain mediocre, jobs also have 0 uniqueness to them which doesnt help anything

[ZephyrMenodora]

We could have a talk about what made me join the game but I dont think it'd be very appropriate especially with the great 20 messages a day quota, if you truly think I originally joined FFXIV with the idea of doing housing, you are very wrong, Shadowlands was an absolute bore, and I joined FFXIV because I wanted to do content, not do housing, but sadly I was very let down by how bad the content is in FFXIV, it's just plain mediocre

But why don't you find a game that has content you want to do then? I am genuinely curious. You aren't forced to stay here in your house if you are so let down. Are there not other games that have content you prefer doing?

I'm not telling you to leave before you think that is the case, I am just wondering if you do spend time elsewhere or what keeps you here for just housing and being disappointed.

[SophiaDL]

But why don't you find a game that has content you want to do then? I am genuinely curious. You aren't forced to stay here in your house if you are so let down. Are there not other games that have content you prefer doing?

I'm not telling you to leave before you think that is the case, I am just wondering if you do spend time elsewhere or what keeps you here for just housing and being disappointed.

I get you very well, and I mentioned it a few times already on the forums, I play WoW for its content, and FFXIV for the social aspect and of course housing, I still dont think that disqualifies me from having an opinion on FFXIV's content though, considering I have tried it at all at this point

Both games have their flaws, and FFXIV's flaw is the absolutely mediocre content, while WoW has a lot less of a social aspect to the game.