Thank you to YoshiP and the devs for the Rising

[RosaliaDLB]

They don't have to agree or want to implement every request they receive. Game would be a hot mess in the hands of the players with no dev experience, no business experience, and no experience with game design. Lots of requests actually directly contradict one another.

Either way, acting disrespectfully or abusive is never the answer.

When constructive complaints have been ignored for multiple years, it is a problem yeah, and ignoring it is not going to magically make it go away, it'll just upset your playerbase more and more over time, until eventually it reaches a point that there is no more "nice", and people bash them, which to be fair is deserved at this point, any sort of complaint is ignored, met with the "lalalalala i cant hear you" treatment, and meanwhile the game is slowly going downhill, while if they actually listened to their community a little, it wouldnt happen, or at least not to such an extent.

[ZephyrMenodora]

When constructive complaints have been ignored for multiple years, it is a problem yeah, and ignoring it is not going to magically make it go away, it'll just upset your playerbase more and more over time, until eventually it reaches a point that there is no more "nice", and people bash them, which to be fair is deserved at this point, any sort of complaint is ignored, met with the "lalalalala i cant hear you" treatment, and meanwhile the game is slowly going downhill, while if they actually listened to their community a little, it wouldnt happen, or at least not to such an extent.

Well, the game is going downhill into a big pile of cash. They are doing something right. And just because they don't respond (i.e. end up in pointless arguments) with players, or don't agree with suggestions, doesn't mean they haven't considered them or that they don't carefully consider all the datapoints they have access to.

[RosaliaDLB]

Well, the game is going downhill into a big pile of cash. They are doing something right. And just because they don't respond (i.e. end up in pointless arguments) with players, or don't agree with suggestions, doesn't mean they haven't considered them or that they don't carefully consider all the datapoints they have access to.

So whales buying everything from the mog shop while the playerbase is actually slowly leaving (which it is, it can be seen in game and on outside sources such as steamcharts which give a good sample) is a good idea ?

Also give me a break lol, just face the truth, they dont care about anything that is on this forum, they dont even read it, at best they might read the JP ones, but that's pretty much it, the EU/NA forums just exist to be there.

[ZephyrMenodora]

So whales buying everything from the mog shop while the playerbase is actually slowly leaving (which it is, it can be seen in game and on outside sources such as steamcharts which give a good sample) is a good idea ?

Also give me a break lol, just face the truth, they dont care about anything that is on this forum, they dont even read it, at best they might read the JP ones, but that's pretty much it, the EU/NA forums just exist to be there.

The EW era made more money in its' lifespan, and continues to do so including quarters between patches, than any other expansion. So...*shrug*

I already said in the past that I doubt they bother with this forum, so we can agree there. But that doesn't mean they don't get feedback from any player-driven source.

[RosaliaDLB]

The EW era made more money in its' lifespan, and continues to do so including quarters between patches, than any other expansion. So...*shrug*

I already said in the past that I doubt they bother with this forum, so we can agree there. But that doesn't mean they don't get feedback from any player-driven source.

Of course they do, and that's partially thanks to more mog shop purchases, which happen more often, less time in between new items, and also more expensive prices, and also partially thanks to the WoW Exodus, it kept a certain percentage of players so of course its higher than it ever was especially now.

A big example of them not listening is healers, it's been multiple years.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Of course they do, and that's partially thanks to more mog shop purchases, which happen more often, less time in between new items, and also more expensive prices, and also partially thanks to the WoW Exodus, it kept a certain percentage of players so of course its higher than it ever was especially now.

A big example of them not listening is healers, it's been multiple years.

And where do you get your data from about Mog purchases? Do you have access to any information about the ratio between player subs and Mog purchase revenue in any comparative sense? I doubt it - it's not in the financials. You bring up steamcharts but it on average still has more players than prior eras.

[RosaliaDLB]

And where do you get your data from about Mog purchases? Do you have access to any information about the ratio between player subs and Mog purchase revenue in any comparative sense? I doubt it - it's not in the financials. You bring up steamcharts but it on average still has more players than prior eras.

It has more players than in the past yes, because of the WoW exodus.

Also as I said, there are more and more mog purchases available, with less and less time between them, and of course for a higher price too.

As for their "financials" of course they wont show anything, especially regarding the playerbase, it wouldnt look good.