Thank you to YoshiP and the devs for the Rising

[RosaliaDLB]

Well, the game is going downhill into a big pile of cash. They are doing something right. And just because they don't respond (i.e. end up in pointless arguments) with players, or don't agree with suggestions, doesn't mean they haven't considered them or that they don't carefully consider all the datapoints they have access to.

So whales buying everything from the mog shop while the playerbase is actually slowly leaving (which it is, it can be seen in game and on outside sources such as steamcharts which give a good sample) is a good idea ?

Also give me a break lol, just face the truth, they dont care about anything that is on this forum, they dont even read it, at best they might read the JP ones, but that's pretty much it, the EU/NA forums just exist to be there.

[ZephyrMenodora]

So whales buying everything from the mog shop while the playerbase is actually slowly leaving (which it is, it can be seen in game and on outside sources such as steamcharts which give a good sample) is a good idea ?

Also give me a break lol, just face the truth, they dont care about anything that is on this forum, they dont even read it, at best they might read the JP ones, but that's pretty much it, the EU/NA forums just exist to be there.

The EW era made more money in its' lifespan, and continues to do so including quarters between patches, than any other expansion. So...*shrug*

I already said in the past that I doubt they bother with this forum, so we can agree there. But that doesn't mean they don't get feedback from any player-driven source.

[RosaliaDLB]

The EW era made more money in its' lifespan, and continues to do so including quarters between patches, than any other expansion. So...*shrug*

I already said in the past that I doubt they bother with this forum, so we can agree there. But that doesn't mean they don't get feedback from any player-driven source.

Of course they do, and that's partially thanks to more mog shop purchases, which happen more often, less time in between new items, and also more expensive prices, and also partially thanks to the WoW Exodus, it kept a certain percentage of players so of course its higher than it ever was especially now.

A big example of them not listening is healers, it's been multiple years.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Of course they do, and that's partially thanks to more mog shop purchases, which happen more often, less time in between new items, and also more expensive prices, and also partially thanks to the WoW Exodus, it kept a certain percentage of players so of course its higher than it ever was especially now.

A big example of them not listening is healers, it's been multiple years.

And where do you get your data from about Mog purchases? Do you have access to any information about the ratio between player subs and Mog purchase revenue in any comparative sense? I doubt it - it's not in the financials. You bring up steamcharts but it on average still has more players than prior eras.

[RosaliaDLB]

And where do you get your data from about Mog purchases? Do you have access to any information about the ratio between player subs and Mog purchase revenue in any comparative sense? I doubt it - it's not in the financials. You bring up steamcharts but it on average still has more players than prior eras.

It has more players than in the past yes, because of the WoW exodus.

Also as I said, there are more and more mog purchases available, with less and less time between them, and of course for a higher price too.

As for their "financials" of course they wont show anything, especially regarding the playerbase, it wouldnt look good.

[ZephyrMenodora]

It has more players than in the past yes, because of the WoW exodus.

Also as I said, there are more and more mog purchases available, with less and less time between them, and of course for a higher price too.

As for their "financials" of course they wont show anything, especially regarding the playerbase, it wouldnt look good.

But you're still speculating that every mog release is a success and you are making the claim that the game is being held up by whales, when in fact the game simply has more players, more subs, and possibly more mog station purchases due to the larger playerbase.

The WoW exodus was some time ago at this point, those players have many options to play other games that aren't XIV. It's not like they had to come here or stay here in a year with quite a few high-profile games coming out to compete for player time and attention. So grats on XIV for attracting players from a competitor, due to the high quality of their game.

[RosaliaDLB]

But you're still speculating that every mog release is a success and you are making the claim that the game is being held up by whales, when in fact the game simply has more players, more subs, and possibly more mog station purchases due to the larger playerbase.

The WoW exodus was some time ago at this point, those players have many options to play other games that aren't XIV. It's not like they had to come here or stay here in a year with quite a few high-profile games coming out to compete for player time and attention. So grats on XIV for attracting players from a competitor, due to the high quality of their game.

The people FFXIV attracted, or at least a certain percentage of them, is basically just venue goers, roleplayers (ERPers too) and the likes, basically people not playing the game, so not a big loss really

Also I didnt say the game is "held up" by whales, I said there are a lot of them, of course there are more people as I just mentioned, thanks to the WoW exodus and people joining naturally as well from other games or wherever they came from