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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    To be clear, it's not explicitly about leaving it the same as much as it's about having a simpler option. And recently, Summoner was made much simpler and is a common class to see played. I think it's a great model of how you can have both simpler and more complex classes in the same game serving different parts of your audience.
    Here's where I think you're not understanding. Ignoring the backlash SMN got, you are right that the Caster role is diverse in complexity.

    The problem is that said complexity doesn't not equal 2 buttons. SMN still has a simple rotation despite how many buttons you may need to press.

    "Well SMN is a DPS" I hear you say. This is why I made the comparison between WAR and GNB. GNB has much more complexity to its rotation in comparison to WAR. It can still do the basic job of tanking as most of the buttons they press to mitigate are role actions, and the ones that differ, don't differ too much.

    Healers can have a similar model where in they have a similar healing kit (as they do now) with minor differences with varying degrees of DPS complexity that isn't just primarily a DoT and a Nuke. So why then are we forced to just have 1 or 2 healers with 2 DPS buttons when it works for tanks just fine?
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASkellington View Post
    Here's where I think you're not understanding. Ignoring the backlash SMN got, you are right that the Caster role is diverse in complexity.

    The problem is that said complexity doesn't not equal 2 buttons. SMN still has a simple rotation despite how many buttons you may need to press.

    "Well SMN is a DPS" I hear you say. This is why I made the comparison between WAR and GNB. GNB has much more complexity to its rotation in comparison to WAR. It can still do the basic job of tanking as most of the buttons they press to mitigate are role actions, and the ones that differ, don't differ too much.

    Healers can have a similar model where in they have a similar healing kit (as they do now) with minor differences with varying degrees of DPS complexity that isn't just primarily a DoT and a Nuke. So why then are we forced to just have 1 or 2 healers with 2 DPS buttons when it works for tanks just fine?
    I mean, to be clear, I don't make any decisions about the actual design of this game. I'm not forcing anything on anyone. I'm simply talking about my ideals for the game's design, and that ideal is that as much as is possible within the limited scope of the game, I'd like everyone to have a class that they can comfortably play that matches their preferences and needs. I know it's never going to be perfect. Nobody is going to get exactly what they want. In that hypothetical vision, some people might have to choose between cards and more complex DPS. That's not a fun choice to make. I just think it's preferable to choosing between (type of DPS you dislike) and nothing.

    I get the impression that the main thing we have different perspectives on is whether more than 2 DPS buttons is too much for some people. So I'll simply say this: if I'm wrong and it's not too much for anyone, then it's not something I'm opposed to.
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