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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    In 27+ months of playing FFXIV, that is literally something that's never happened to me, and something that I've never had to worry about.

    I've run content with my FC-mates, several of whom are obviously on-content Savage raiders. (It's obvious from the gear and mounts they're sporting, even if they don't say anything.) Not once have I heard them remark on anyone's DPS, let alone the healers'. For the healers -- It's always, "Here's a good time to use Temperance." Or, "Here's a good time for Lilybell/Panhaima." Or when a few members of the party are tanking the floor, "F everyone else, just keep yourself alive for 10 seconds, and then LB3."

    Every reasonable player I've ever encountered pushes the healers in the party to keep themselves alive and then to keep party alive. Healer DPS is the lowest priority.

    In the end, it is true that FFXIV players expect healers to excel... at actually healing and keeping the party alive. If they can do DPS, that's an added bonus.
    I was lectured by a party member about doing 0 healer DPS while leveling my very first healer in Brayflox Longstop a month or two after starting the game. If we're contributing personal anecdotes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetch View Post
    I was lectured by a party member about doing 0 healer DPS while leveling my very first healer in Brayflox Longstop a month or two after starting the game. If we're contributing personal anecdotes.
    OK, so don't keep us in suspense. That's only part of the story, first of all , who gave you the lecture, and what happened after that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    OK, so don't keep us in suspense. That's only part of the story, first of all , who gave you the lecture, and what happened after that?
    I have no idea what point you're trying to make.

    Nobody else said anything. I snarked at the person a bit and then we finished the dungeon.

    If by chance you're supposing they earned a black mark on their account for violating the TOS, well, they didn't get one from me and neither of the other party members seemed to care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetch View Post
    I have no idea what point you're trying to make.

    Nobody else said anything. I snarked at the person a bit and then we finished the dungeon.

    If by chance you're supposing they earned a black mark on their account for violating the TOS, well, they didn't get one from me and neither of the other party members seemed to care.
    It was a simple question as you didn't provide any information on: the way the remark was phrased (e.g. was it helpful, was it abrupt), whether anyone else said anything, whether you said anything, whether you found it helpful (or not), whether you modified anything (or not).

    Up to you on how much you wanted to provide, however without at least some of the above (and not being there) it's rather difficult to understand the circumstances, nor was I speculating regarding any violation of the TOS. I wasn't doubting that it happened, before anyone raises that question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    It was a simple question as you didn't provide any information on: the way the remark was phrased (e.g. was it helpful, was it abrupt), whether anyone else said anything, whether you said anything, whether you found it helpful (or not), whether you modified anything (or not).

    Up to you on how much you wanted to provide, however without at least some of the above (and not being there) it's rather difficult to understand the circumstances, nor was I speculating regarding any violation of the TOS. I wasn't doubting that it happened, before anyone raises that question.
    Ah.

    It was quite abrupt. I didn't consider it helpful at the time but in hindsight they were correct; I was anticipating a lot more incoming damage than was actually happening and didn't need to conserve MP nearly as much as I was.

    My point in bringing it up was that there are absolutely people commenting on healer DPS performance and not just whether they're keeping the party alive, so I wasn't thinking of the things you're asking for as relevant. Sorry.
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