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    Darnath's Avatar
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    Lennath Aoran
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Does anyone know of someone who looked up a guide for Euphrosyne because they couldn’t figure it out themselves? Just wondering if someone legit couldn’t stop dying until they looked up a guide.

    I for one don’t believe there is any and would be quite surprised. If anyone legit couldn’t beat it please come forward. I don’t mean this to look down on you, just legitimately curious if we actually haven’t hit rock bottom difficulty wise in alliance raids.

    I also don’t mean you died. I mean you couldn’t stop dying because you could never comprehend what was going on in the raid until you looked up a guide.
    Guilty.

    I'll blame it on my old WoW mythic (well, Heroic back then) raider days when I had the nerves to do such stuff, but I'll almost never do content without looking at a guide first. Yes, even MSQ based trials and non-trusted dungeons like Smileton. Thus why Trusts were a *bleep* godsend to me so I could learn the mechanics before hitting the roulettes.

    To me it's not a spoiler as the fight isn't the story to be spoiled, the fight's just a way to earn a reward. And as somebody else pointed out, as a healer I want try to mitigate my own screwups to try to help out the others who are going in blind and die to mechanics. Heck, even after reading (prefer reading) a guide I still died to a mechanic and revisited the guide to understand why I screwed up.
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    Aries Helle
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Darnath View Post
    Guilty.

    I'll blame it on my old WoW mythic (well, Heroic back then) raider days when I had the nerves to do such stuff, but I'll almost never do content without looking at a guide first. Yes, even MSQ based trials and non-trusted dungeons like Smileton. Thus why Trusts were a *bleep* godsend to me so I could learn the mechanics before hitting the roulettes.

    To me it's not a spoiler as the fight isn't the story to be spoiled, the fight's just a way to earn a reward. And as somebody else pointed out, as a healer I want try to mitigate my own screwups to try to help out the others who are going in blind and die to mechanics. Heck, even after reading (prefer reading) a guide I still died to a mechanic and revisited the guide to understand why I screwed up.
    Thats fine, there isn't anything wrong with this. If there are people who feel this way then feedback readers need to know it. I still feel the game is too easy for its own good but I wanted to know if we could at least find some people who felt the need to look up guides and there are.

    It would've been worse if nobody came forward TBH, because then it would be extremely obvious noone feels a challenge. Personally I plan on playing this game a lot less next expansion with the hopes of one day being able to let go of my house. I no longer feel the spark or excitement I once had for running alliance raids like during SB or HW and feeling like a wipe was a real possibility. So while I like the game, I like it a lot less, despite feeling it was going to get better. Now it feels like it isn't, at least for people who enjoy risk like me.

    If I know the outcome is always going to be winning then the food doesn't taste as good in my own world view. The only time Ive actually wiped at an alliance raid recently is from the Aglaia oneshot, but it doesn't bring the thrill that other raids did where wipes were due to a combination of mechanics and not a gacha insta wipe.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 08-24-2023 at 12:02 PM.

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    Myrany Wilzuun
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    Zalera
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    Miner Lv 87
    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Thats fine, there isn't anything wrong with this. If there are people who feel this way then feedback readers need to know it. I still feel the game is too easy for its own good but I wanted to know if we could at least find some people who felt the need to look up guides and there are.

    It would've been worse if nobody came forward TBH, because then it would be extremely obvious noone feels a challenge. Personally I plan on playing this game a lot less next expansion with the hopes of one day being able to let go of my house. I no longer feel the spark or excitement I once had for running alliance raids like during SB or HW and feeling like a wipe was a real possibility. So while I like the game, I like it a lot less, despite feeling it was going to get better. Now it feels like it isn't, at least for people who enjoy risk like me.

    If I know the outcome is always going to be winning then the food doesn't taste as good in my own world view. The only time Ive actually wiped at an alliance raid recently is from the Aglaia oneshot, but it doesn't bring the thrill that other raids did where wipes were due to a combination of mechanics and not a gacha insta wipe.
    Preface: I am about as casual as casual comes in this game.

    Even so I always look up a guide before I do anything that involves other players. My personal ethics require me to perform to the best of my ability so that I avoid harming other players experience. This is why I also don't do much harder content. ARR extremes are right on the edge of my physical ability to do and not all that much fun given the toll it takes on me physically.
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