Why are there no multi-hit skills on Sage?

[Supersnow845]

Sage has physis but I do not have to wait for a pixie to stop casting embrace to use whispering dawn is why I did not mention whispering dawn not that I dont remember about it and if the pet is gone via that clunk dispate skill can whispering be used? Do you always have to reply to everything to defend your precious sch that is the least played healer even though its so called op of the 4 healers? Jesus christ.

Point is people act as if the fairy does anything different from kardia other than it will hot heal any person whos injured which is more annoying as I rather all the heals is going to tank instead unless its a situation of unavoidable big aoes which easily is handled by a physis 2 ixochole and kerachole. Both pixie and kardia is lack luster and needs rework like ast dull cards.

For someone who is so convinced that SGE is so much better based on your signature you sure do make a lot of wrong statements about SCH/SGE, if you don’t want people to make comments about how you are wrong about them then don’t make wrong comments

And as ren pointed out SCH is second in JP and 3rd in NA/EU so even with it having new class factor SGE is still just average

[IceBlueNinja]

For someone who is so convinced that SGE is so much better based on your signature you sure do make a lot of wrong statements about SCH/SGE, if you don’t want people to make comments about how you are wrong about them then don’t make wrong comments

And as ren pointed out SCH is second in JP and 3rd in NA/EU so even with it having new class factor SGE is still just average

Ok played alot in japan played less on america so your point is invalid, oh now you wanna agree with Ren for once cause he said something that you actually like harhar, yet then at one point your always chewing up his points, hypocrisy at its finest. Got a problem with my signature make your own lmao, imagine being so petty complaining about people signature now.

[Supersnow845]

Ok played alot in japan played less on america so your point is invalid, oh now you wanna agree with Ren for once cause he said something that you actually like harhar, yet then at one point your always chewing up his points, hypocrisy at its finest. Got a problem with my signature make your own lmao, imagine being so petty complaining about people signature now oh what a cruel world. And anything you say about is just as wrong too.

I agree with points that are correct and disagree with points that are incorrect or I don’t personally like if they are arguments and not statements

I disagree with ren a lot because most of the time I don’t like his points or I find them flawed in some way, agreeing with him when he makes a true statement doesn’t make me a hypocrite it means that I don’t arbitrarily defend my “side” like you apparently seem to do

Not quite sure what region you play on makes any difference, SCH is not the least popular on any data centre nor is SGE the most popular on any data centre

And no I don’t make false statements about the healers because I don’t have a vendetta against any of them like you seem to have with SCH for some reason

[IceBlueNinja]

I agree with points that are correct and disagree with points that are incorrect or I don’t personally like if they are arguments and not statements

I disagree with ren a lot because most of the time I don’t like his points or I find them flawed in some way, agreeing with him when he makes a true statement doesn’t make me a hypocrite it means that I don’t arbitrarily defend my “side” like you apparently seem to do

Not quite sure what region you play on makes any difference, SCH is not the least popular on any data centre nor is SGE the most popular on any data centre

And no I don’t make false statements about the healers because I don’t have a vendetta against any of them like you seem to have with SCH for some reason

Defend my side ? What side are you talking about now lol? Its it a crime to not like something? Yes you do have a vendatta on sage like most do because anytime there is a sage topic its always some negative remakes by you never seen not one positive thing ever.

[Supersnow845]

Defend my side ? What side are you talking about now lol? Its it a crime to not like something? Yes you do have a vendatta on sage like most do because anytime there is a sage topic its always some negative remakes by you never seen not one positive thing ever.

As in you implied I only agreed with someone I usually disagree with (ren) in order to attack you, I’m totally happy to agree with people not on my “side” in the general healer arguments if they make valid points

As for things I like about SGE
-kardia is inherently an interesting mechanic even if it’s a bit undercooked and I like how I can target target rather than hoping eos heals the right person
-haima and panhaima especially are good skills and I like how much you can optimise panhaima because of its expiration heal
-taurochole is far more accessible than protraction as a form of single target mitigation which SCH really lacks
-SGE is the best healer to play in dungeons because it actually has a somewhat interesting AOE rotation in higher levels
-SGE’s weapons are far better than SCH’s outdated books
-SGE fills a good niche of being the simple low APM shield healer when prior to EW if you wanted to shield heal your options were AST or SCH which also takes pressure off WHM as the “baby’s first healer” and makes shield healing seem less imposing

I don’t like SGE because I think it’s a poor copy of SCH in an era when we were really relying on a new healer to revitalise the healer space and I think SGE failed at that, that doesn’t mean I can’t see the benefits of the class and nor does that mean I don’t or won’t play SGE

[Shurrikhan]

Ok played alot in japan played less on america so your point is invalid, oh now you wanna agree with Ren for once cause he said something that you actually like harhar, yet then at one point your always chewing up his points, hypocrisy at its finest.

People are free to agree with the points they agree with and disagree with the points they disagree with regardless of whom they come from... The heck are you on about?

Which seems the more likely: that some random other poster is so obsessed with you or your position that he'd give errant information --but somehow disguise this by citing someone else, let alone someone he usually disagrees with-- just to call you out, or that simply that (A) you gave out misinformation that hurt your credibility and should probably slow down and check your statements and make them understandably if you want to be believed, and (B) a fair portion of Ren's points are solid/agreeable to many people?

[IceBlueNinja]

People are free to agree with the points they agree with and disagree with the points they disagree with regardless of whom they come from... The heck are you on about?

Which seems the more likely: that some random other poster is so obsessed with you or your position that he'd give errant information --but somehow disguise this by citing someone else, let alone someone he usually disagrees with-- just to call you out, or that simply that (A) you gave out misinformation that hurt your credibility and should probably slow down and check your statements and make them understandably if you want to be believed, and (B) a fair portion of Ren's points are solid/agreeable to many people?

Oh here comes the bandwagon, whos speaking to you ?

[Renathras]

People are free to agree with the points they agree with and disagree with the points they disagree with regardless of whom they come from...

...while TRUE, I've noticed that people will often carry a grudge against some people so hard they legitimately WON'T agree with them even if they're saying the same things. Sabezy just said she's "done with me" for agreeing with someone who literally said something I've said many times, and then stated her position, which is in agreement (on several of the major bullet points and to a degree overall) with my own position. Ty and I actually agreed on a number of things, but he would attack me for it or refuse to admit when we did. Some people here have outright accused me of being disingenuous when I agreed with them...on positions I'd already been on the record holding, even accusing me of trying to pull something by being too nice.

Note that I DON'T think that's what Snow's doing here, but I am saying it does happen. Also: I don't think that Ice is right, but I don't think he was giving out "misinformation that hurt (his) credibility", either.

Though...this is the first I'm hearing that a fair portion of my points are solid/agreeable to many people. o.O

I'm a bit shocked you of all people are saying that considering...I...don't recall you really praising my points as solid or agreeable before. I appreciate it, but...am taken aback by the unexpected.

Oh here comes the bandwagon, whos speaking to you ?

It...does happen.

Again, though, I don't think Snow's wrong here, and I think your position isn't fact. Opinion/subjective views can absolutely be valid (no one can say you "feel" wrong, so to speak), but I tend to think both SCH and SGE are decent. I don't think either is horribly badly designed or implemented right now. I know I'm UNUSUAL in this, but I actually do like both of them and how they're different from one another.

EDIT:

Replying to you below in the other thread, Shurrikhan. Because that discussion is going on there, not here. You know I'm not a fan of people ragging on folks in completely different threads and the like.
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6326648