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    Dawntrail Healer Change Predicitons

    I figure conversations about what changes and new actions people think the healers will receive for Dawntrail will probably start popping up in the near future, so here's a thread to dump them into.

    Personally, I'm torn between pessimistic and very cautiously optimistic. Mainly because I cannot imagine that we will get even more healing cooldowns when we are already drowning in them, but then again, I also can't fathom how we got here in the first place, so perhaps that my ignorance.
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    I hope for party-wide short invuln and i think they will dumb down the role further by:

    - giving us a second lucid dreaming like mana regen
    - giving us a skill to pass aggro if we accidentally got it
    - even more shields or regens
    - maybe a partywide Esuna


    oh and what would be interessting would be a second rez spell with even higher mp costs, only about 5 seconds long but with a long cooldown
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    For patch 5.12? I'd be pleasantly surprised if we got more than
    • A DoT upgrade
    • Maybe a Glareoileficosis potency bump
    • oGCD (expansion gimmick like mitigation for Meleewalker)
    • Yet Another 2-minute healing oGCD
    • A mechanic they strip off a lower level, then sell back as a "capstone"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    For patch 5.12?
    No... 7.0...
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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    "In order to help healers keep track on their DoT, we have decided to remove the skill and give their primary attack like "Glare" a 30second DoT effect" /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shikiseki View Post
    "In order to help healers keep track on their DoT, we have decided to remove the skill and give their primary attack like "Glare" a 30second DoT effect" /s
    I know you are joking... but let's hope they don't go there... we know they could...
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    Here's my pragmatic white mage prediction (i.e. what I think will happen, not what I think should happen):


    Regen: Level 35 > Level 20.

    Afflatus Solace: Level 52 > Level 35.

    Secret of the Lily: Level 52 > Level 35. Generates a lily every 20 > 40 seconds.

    Aero III: *Returned/Reworked* - Deals 880 potency damage to your target and 50% less for all other enemies. Can only be executed when the Wind Lily is in full bloom.

    Transcendent Winds: *New* - Adds a Wind Lily to the Healing Gauge after 3 uses of Afflatus Solace or Afflatus Rapture.

    Afflatus Rapture: Level 76 > Level 52.

    Secret of the Lily II: *Returned/Reworked* - Increases Lily generation to every 30 seconds.

    Stone IV: Potency 260 > Potency 250.

    Glare: Potency 290 > Potency 280.

    Afflatus Misery: *Replaces Aero III* - Potency 1240 > Potency 1200.

    Transcendent Afflatus: Upgrades the Wind Lily to the Blood Lily and upgrades Aero III to Afflatus Misery.

    Secret of the Lily III: *New* - Increases Lily generation to every 20 seconds.

    Afflatus Shelter: *New* Level 76 - 100 potency regen on self and all party members within 30 yalms for 15 seconds and reduces magic damage taken by 5% for 15 seconds. 60 second GCD cooldown. Costs 1 lily. Nourishes the Blood Lily.

    Glare III: Potency 310 > Potency 300.

    Glare IV: *New* - Level 92 - Single target damage with a potency of 320.

    Glare Mastery II: *New* - Level 92 - Upgrades Glare III to Glare IV. Increases the potency of Afflatus Misery to 1280.

    Dia II: *New* - Level 92 - Single target DoT with a potency of 70. Lasts 30 seconds.

    Dia Mastery: *New* - Level 92 - Upgrades Dia to Dia II.

    Florescence: *New* - Level 94 - Blooms 1 Lily on the Healing Gauge. OGCD with a cooldown of 90 seconds.

    Enhanced Assize: *New* - Level 98 - Allows for the accumulation of charges for consecutive uses of Assize. 2 Charges.

    Eschaton: *New* - Level 100 (GCD Spell) - Deals damage to all enemies within 20 yalms with a potency of 320 and 50% less for all remaining enemies. Additional effect: restores HP to self and all party members within 20 yalms with a potency of 400. Additional effect: Applies Eschaton as a buff to self and all allies within 20 yalms for 20 seconds. Eschaton buff effect: Restores HP with a potency of 400 when the target next takes damage. Eschaton cannot only be executed while under the effects of Temperance. Cannot be set to the hotbar (replaces Temperance while Temperance's effect is active).
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    Last edited by ty_taurus; 08-03-2023 at 06:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    No... 7.0...
    That's the joke. Endwalker has felt like 5.6 since it barely shook the combat system up. Half-joking prediction based on the information we have so far is that Dawntrail will be Shadowbringers patch 12.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    In general:
    • Nuke potency bump.
    • DoT potency bump, if not deleted.
    • Healing magick potency bump.

    Maybe:
    • Turning Eos into Embrace bot & nothing else. She exist solely to cast embrace and generate fae gauge from that point.
    • A new lily spender.
    • Buffing mit/healing radius even more obnoxiously you can reach another instance progging the same raid.
    • Salted Earth treatment to healer's ground targeting abilities with perhaps increased radius---positioning be damned!
    • Increasing the reach of single targeting heals (maybe from 25y to 30 or 40y).
    • Second charge to our fluff-over-depth lv86 button.
    • Removing -something- from lower lv range... i.e., Astrodyne, then add it back as rehashed 'new button.'
    • Something as interesting as Macrocosmos & Pneuma.

    Bonus points (a bit unrelated but still 'healer things'):
    • "Please try healer." v2.0
    • "We don't know what do with <insert healer>" v2.0
    • A replacement for their current healer tester for another brand new inexperienced healer for whatever reason.

    I know they are satirical for the most part (sorry lol)... I'll try think of something better when I regain the mental capacity to comprehend their design flowchart... if I ever get to that point that is.
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    Make eukrasia ogcd .... about it, I enjoy sage as is, hope it stays the same except for maybe pepsi.

    Pepsi could use a change, dunno how though, maybe make it so it either heals using leftover shield or if you use it when people aren't shielded it buffs the next euk prog or diag shield by a certain amount, lean a bit more into the proactive part of being a shield healer.
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