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    VelKallor's Avatar
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    Then there's the toxicity of M+ - something you clearly have no experience with.
    Tanis?

    I have commented on M+ toxicity..and been called a liar and told I was making things up. It isnt you, of course, far from it, I am just observing the sickening double standards.

    It'd be amusing...if it wasnt so sad.

    Then there's addons like weakauras, DBM, and the such that will practically play the game for players. Instead of regulating or banning addons that are as invasive as weakauras, Blizzard literally admitted that they designed Raids around them. Which means that if you weren't using those addons, that the raids were designed around, then you were at a severe disadvantage.
    The HUGE list of addons you must have to play at all is....I dont know if youd call it disgusting or just plain wrong. I am 1000%^ glad we dont have this issue in FF 14 thanks to the devs hard stance.

    We dont want to go down that rabbit hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Tanis?

    I have commented on M+ toxicity..and been called a liar and told I was making things up. It isnt you, of course, far from it, I am just observing the sickening double standards.

    It'd be amusing...if it wasnt so sad.



    The HUGE list of addons you must have to play at all is....I dont know if youd call it disgusting or just plain wrong. I am 1000%^ glad we dont have this issue in FF 14 thanks to the devs hard stance.

    We dont want to go down that rabbit hole.
    WoW's issue is that they never regulated addons. They cannot remove that option at this point as a lot of players would just quit. Now, they cannot even ban weakauras as not only did Blizzard take too long to do so, but they already admitted that they designed Raids and M+ around having weakauras. It's why I gave up on M+ as without weakauras, DBM, and the such then you're at a severe disadvantage. Yet having these things is like not even playing the game as a good weakaura, DBM, GTFO, and macros will essentially play the game almost for you. As it gives a ton of info and will tell you what to do, what to avoid, what to interrupt, what to debuff, what to cleanse on who and when, and ect.

    I get why FF14 took a full on hard stance, as regulating it would be a pain.

    Blizzard has no excuse as 99% of all addons are installed and used via Curseforge. Blizzard easily could have banned weakauras and told Curseforge that they would be blacklisted if they didn't ban weakauras as well. Removing weakauras from Curseforge would kill that addon. The only ones that would look for workarounds would be hardcores and Blizzard would know who would be using it. As Blizzard can easily look up the logs of guilds for the hardest clears if they so want to. It's not like weakauras hides itself from being used. Course, Blizzard never gave that addon any reason to hide itself.

    This is also why I laugh when people say WoW is harder than FF14 (a game where you need to learn the mechanics per fight). That's a lie, as with addons even top M+ clears can be trivialized. Players don't need to know the fights that well as the addons will tell them what to do. Then there's Blizzard allowing carries to be sold and advertised on calendars and trade chat. Why, if I wanted, I could max out this M+ season really easily by just using Gold and getting a "pro" group with the right addons/weakauras to carry me. Heck, Mythic clears for the current raid tier are advertised 24/7 on trade chat too. I could get the Glory cheevo if I wanted and had enough gold.
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    Last edited by Tanis_Ebonhart; 08-23-2023 at 05:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    You cannot even come up with a good rebuttal. You know that I'm right and are just angry that you were proven to be a fraud on this subject.
    Actually I just did, but as I mentioned previously, you dont do any challenging content and didnt in WoW, so to be fair, your opinion is irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Soooo... to you the only "content" worth doing is extremes and savage. "If you dont do these you arent playing the game"
    If you think normal raiding in FFXIV is challenging, god am I glad you left WoW then, because I can only imagine how hard mythic raiding would be for you, you would outright quit on the first trash mobs. And also stay away from savage or ultimates, because if you dont you are in for a very rough time if you think normal raids are challenging and actual proper content.
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