Feedback from a new player

[Renathras]

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Oh, one word of caution:

This game has a "don't ask, don't tell" perspective with add-ons. They're TECHNICALLY against the TOS, but people generally don't mind (and the Devs don't generally take action) as long as people aren't talking about it. So if you want to talk about those, I'd advise you do so on Reddit or Discords, but you MIGHT want to...modify...your 4/5 post to remove mention of any use of the things.

I don't know that they'd do anything to you over it here, but better safe than sorry.

It's really they don't want people running damage meters that they then use to insult and harass other players (you know the drill in WoW where the top DPSer in a random 5 man leveling dungeon tries to tell everyone else how bad everyone is for doing 1% less than them? That sort of thing), as well as prevent people getting unfair advantages in combat (like DeadlyBossMods; specifically, they don't want those things to become mandatory like they are in WoW, so they don't want them at all).

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In general, you're fine using things like shader type things, just...don't talk about them on any official location (forums, in-game chat), if you get my meaning.

Personally, I don't use any, and I'm looking forward to 7.0 since it sounds like they're going to do a pretty major graphics overhaul/update. So I'm looking forward to that. Though I honestly like the game's graphics and visual style.

Anyway, just a...word of advice since you're new and all.

Again, glad you're having fun! Hope to see you out there somewhere. o/

EDIT:

Yeah nah, I aint a toxic positive like you are I am afraid, nor will I just stay quiet if I feel someone said something wrong, but hey, thanks for your input, not that it'll change anything as to what I think

I'm not "toxic positive" as I have critiques about the game all the time. Try again.

I just actually call out people lying or engaging in hyperbole. Like in your second post where you said making a single mistake while leveling in WoW would mean death. That's completely wrong. If you leveled a tank - ANY tank - you could pull multiple enemies easily as long as you weren't in overworld dungeons (the open world areas with all elite mobs). A Prot/Holy Paladin hybrid could pull entire ZONES. I routinely would pull 10-15 enemies. When BC hit and I went to Hellfire, I pulled tons of those boars and vultures. Between Consecration, Seal of Light/Wisdom, Judgement, and Holy Light, I was borderline unkillable.

I also leveled Priest, and while I died FAR more often, I could take any at-level enemy one-on-one making plenty of mistakes and survive. I could actually fight and kill up to 3-4 enemies (depending on enemy), it just took more resources and meant more downtime to eat/drink after the battle.

So this idea that Vanilla was EVERQUEST (it wasn't) is just rose tinted goggles.

I'm calling you out on entering a thread of a new player to tell them how bad the game is and that some other game is better, and being wrong about the specific points you mentioned.

I'll note you didn't contest me pointing out that Vanilla's combat was cake compared to FFXIV's, so I will mark that down as you conceding the point. Compare Molten Core to Coils or even Crystal Tower and it's no contest that FFXIV ARR was harder in both mechanics and class rotations. Even after WoW increased the debuff cap (so Hunters could actually use some of their abilities), a lot of classes were still what the negative nancies here would call braindead. Hell, Holy Paladin in Wrath was "Beacon the Off-Tank, target the Main Tank, Cast Holy Light, repeat Holy Light cast for 10 minutes, using Judgement of Light on CD if there weren't already 2 Paladins in the Raid." There's no reality in which that's more complex than modern FFXIV healers.

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Point is, Vanilla WoW had a better/more immersive world, but wasn't harder in any realistic sense unless you were a really bad player (and even then, if you were playing a tank, it still didn't matter).

[Tankymctankface]

Oh, one word of caution:

This game has a "don't ask, don't tell" perspective with add-ons. They're TECHNICALLY against the TOS, but people generally don't mind (and the Devs don't generally take action) as long as people aren't talking about it.

Again, glad you're having fun! Hope to see you out there somewhere. o/

Changed my mind after watching this video, and specifically the section around toxicity:
Asmongold on "15 Years of WoW vs 1 Year of FFXIV" | By Jesse Cox

[Kacho_Nacho]

Welcome to the game!

[CerusSerenade]

Thanks, but I did do that deliberately. I don't talk about it ingame as my FC advised, but I do want to force the topic here. It should be discussed openly. And as I said, I'm new, there's not much to lose if they decide to ban me. I can always sign up again and start from scratch or simply move on to something like Sand Land or something. There's lots out there. I love XIV, but I won't have a sword held over my head.

And I certainly do understand the down sides of mods, as you point out. But the customization they offer, that's not on "that" end of the 1%'ers and the must have etc etc, is still a discussion owrth having.... I mean, looking at something like Eve... The amount of setup you have to do just for mandatory mumble set up, and lots of "must have discord", "must have mic" really makes the no-to-add-ons point moot. Not to mention that a bad tank does not need numbers for others to see I'm a bad tank... Or not prepared, didn't watch the yt video etc etc.... There are lots of "must haves" out there for any game. I just don't think one should single out add-ons because it's the lowest hanging fruit.

It has been "forced " before and was met with a hard bans, they have been over this. Their stance is immovable on the matter since if they endorsed a mod, if the mod maker ever did something malicious, which some have, they would be held responsible legally and in the eyes of the players. They just can't endorse mods period. You flagrantly saying you use addons is just begging to get yourself banned to maintain fairness across enforcement, and there will be no discussion on the matter.

I get you want to have a discussion about it, but you're doing the equivalent of setting yourself on fire to talk to a brick wall.

[Monokhrom]

As somebody who recently caught up with MSQ, I really think SE needs to go back and adjust the combat in ARR, both for multiplayer content and solo instances. I get that new players need to learn, but what’s currently there is not engaging at all. Doing the mechanics and following your rotation was incredibly easy and often pretty boring. It’s definitely one of the big reasons why ARR feels like such a slog to new players.

[Renathras]

I will pick tiny snippets because most of this is just opinion, but some things need to be mentioned

No it isnt, WoW was never an absolute cakewalk as FFXIV is, and the leveling even less. Are you sure you played vanilla ?

You can't just tell someone that their subjective opinion is wrong. Your "absolute cakewalk" is wrong. How about that?

I played Vanilla, it was a bit more dangerous, but it was far easier. Job rotations in FFXIV are about two orders of magnitude more complex that Vanilla WoW. Recall in Vanilla, Hunters' rotation on Molten Core was literally press autoattack AND NOTHING ELSE. Most bosses had some fire or some adds that might have done a cleave. That was really the extent of "mechanics". FFXIV's combat, both player Job rotations and boss mechanics, are far more challenging than Vanilla WoW's until at least Blackrock Keep, but the open world is generally easier, so it, on balance, comes out to a similar overall difficulty. More of FFXIV's difficulty is in combat and class design/rotations, Vanilla's was more in the dangers of the world and lower player power relative to enemies. Did YOU play Vanilla?

And no, those things didn't need to be mentioned.

This kind of post is what makes people think folks here that want to be negative just want to be negative. The right response to this post:

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OP, I'm glad you're enjoying the game! Welcome.

[SophiaDL]

You can't just tell someone that their subjective opinion is wrong. Your "absolute cakewalk" is wrong. How about that?

I played Vanilla, it was a bit more dangerous, but it was far easier. Job rotations in FFXIV are about two orders of magnitude more complex that Vanilla WoW. Recall in Vanilla, Hunters' rotation on Molten Core was literally press autoattack AND NOTHING ELSE. Most bosses had some fire or some adds that might have done a cleave. That was really the extent of "mechanics". FFXIV's combat, both player Job rotations and boss mechanics, are far more challenging than Vanilla WoW's until at least Blackrock Keep, but the open world is generally easier, so it, on balance, comes out to a similar overall difficulty. More of FFXIV's difficulty is in combat and class design/rotations, Vanilla's was more in the dangers of the world and lower player power relative to enemies. Did YOU play Vanilla?

And no, those things didn't need to be mentioned.

This kind of post is what makes people think folks here that want to be negative just want to be negative. The right response to this post:

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OP, I'm glad you're enjoying the game! Welcome.

Yeah nah, I aint a toxic positive like you are I am afraid, nor will I just stay quiet if I feel someone said something wrong, but hey, thanks for your input, not that it'll change anything as to what I think

also now that I read the OP again, they admitted to using plugins and reshade, while it is.. ToS

Idk about that one, it seems genuine but the oversharing regarding addons/plugins and reshade, idk.

wanted to add as clarification, I agree with your stance regarding addons/plugins and reshade, I think they should be allowed, but oh well.

[Noumenon]

Add-ons:
I've seen the youtube video about the world first kill and the controvesy around add-ons, since the game does not support it. I also saw a yt creator mention that devs called for input on which features they can rather add to the base game to eliminate the need for addons.
My take on this has always been that any MMO should support add-ons. It allows for the customization that you can never achieve by trying to add a feature or features that will satisfy everyone. I play with a client that is strictly speaking very much against the TOS, and I'm definitely not ashamed of it, nor am I worried about getting my account suspended or banned. There are a lot of other MMOs and games out there that will gladly accept my money.
I run a reshade firstly, to make the game more vibrant. So I run a couple of plugins that increase vibrancy and over-saturates the colours a bit, along with some plugins that remove the white haze, and adds clarity and definition.
Then, I run the 4k texture pack. That alone currently stands at 372Gb worth of modification.
Then, just about every nsfw add-on I can find. It's how I prefer to play. Over the top boob sliders, the npc dancers in uldah are topless, my own character is anatomically correct when naked. Bust multipliers beyond the body replacements. Breast physics jigglers to the extreme etc etc.
I prefer a square minimap over the round one.
ACT for emnity or aggro management.
Hunty, because on one of the mobs the ingame description of where to find it is wrong.
Death Recap so I can figure out why I got 1 shotted
GatherBuddy
Globetrotter
Item Vendor Location
Market board
Party Icons
Male Paladin idle pose for female Paladin
and Simple Tweaks

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Why exactly did you post this? I would strongly suggest you delete this before you get in trouble.

[Noumenon]

Thanks, but I did do that deliberately. I don't talk about it ingame as my FC advised, but I do want to force the topic here. It should be discussed openly. And as I said, I'm new, there's not much to lose if they decide to ban me. I can always sign up again and start from scratch or simply move on to something like Sand Land or something. There's lots out there. I love XIV, but I won't have a sword held over my head.

And I certainly do understand the down sides of mods, as you point out. But the customization they offer, that's not on "that" end of the 1%'ers and the must have etc etc, is still a discussion owrth having.... I mean, looking at something like Eve... The amount of setup you have to do just for mandatory mumble set up, and lots of "must have discord", "must have mic" really makes the no-to-add-ons point moot. Not to mention that a bad tank does not need numbers for others to see I'm a bad tank... Or not prepared, didn't watch the yt video etc etc.... There are lots of "must haves" out there for any game. I just don't think one should single out add-ons because it's the lowest hanging fruit.

You can discuss it on Reddit or X. Discussing it here is asking for trouble.