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  1. #51
    Player Hurlstone's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    Remember when people were saying "what's another 2 weeks"? Now it's another 2.5 weeks. And like a frog in slowly heated water, the players don't realize this gradual change.

    Who else is excited for 5-month patch cycles in 7.x!!!
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    I would agree with this if only for the fact that you're forgetting that Shb only real content was Bozja and even then that was just watered down but digestible version of Eureka with 2 zones compared to the 4.

    They all suck anyway but Shb had less variety in its content than EW. What standards are we comparing with Shadowbringers?
    If we're counting quality of content then Endwalker hasn't had a patch since it came out.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    Mind telling me your calculations? Did you count .55 as major patch?
    2.0 was released in 27/8/2013, 6.4 in 23/5/2023, that's 3556 days.

    Major patches are :
    2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, 2.5,
    3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.5,
    4.0, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.5,
    5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 5.4, 5.5,
    6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 6.3, 6.4 = 28 patches

    Average between each patch, including X.5 to Y.0, is 127 days. In-expansion patches have average of 118. This is of course, assuming that ChatGPT gave me right release dates and I didn't do mistakes:



    Before someone gets the misconception that I'm demanding that devs hurry up or whatever, I'm just pointing out the fact that patches do take longer, even longer than they said they will, while quality is noticeably worse. Right now EW is at worse pace than even ShB's Covid pace for some reason, and content doesn't reflect the added time to it. The "they take more time to check everything is working" doesn't even apply, EW patches do lack QA, as we can see from numerous bugs EW had. I'm not trying to bring the game down, I just want to have back the better standards, instead of settling on mediocrity.

    Your missing the biggest time space I said to 7.0. Which adds 395+ more days to 29 patches. Which just has a seasonal release date. Your number is at almost 4.2 months already. We are literally in the same month your roughly second week and I am end week or start of next.
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    Last edited by Moonlite; 08-07-2023 at 04:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Your missing the biggest time space I said to 7.0. Which adds 395+ more days to 29 patches. Which just has a seasonal release date. Your number is at almost 4.2 months already. We are literally in the same month your roughly second week and I am end week or start of next.
    I don't include release dates that we don't know. And 7.0 would be 30th patch, you didn't account for 6.5. I know that it feels like we should be halfway through 6.5 by this time, but we're still just in 6.4.

    But if you want to use uncertain release dates, then if 6.5 is scheduled for early october and 7.0 for early summer, then let's use 10.10.2023 for 6.5 and 14.7.2024 (1/4 into the summer) for 7.0, then we would still get to average of ~4.352 months per patch, which is still far from the 5 months as you suggest. This average would climb to your suggested 5 months only if 7.0 released in spring of 2026.
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    Last edited by Deo14; 08-07-2023 at 05:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    serious case of Stockholms Syndrome that I'm legit worried that you need to go sick a psychiatrist for help.
    Please remember to report these comments for being insulting and harassing.
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    I definitely wouldn't mind some more midcore grinds, with some worthwhile rewards. More mounts, glam, hairs, etc.. I'd like to be able to play at endgame a bit more. Stuff like that would help with patch lulls. There is a balance to be made when it comes to a grind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    Please remember to report these comments for being insulting and harassing.
    They been combative and insulting toward people who dare to suggest the game have a single piece of content that has even a little bit of a grind for people that enjoy having a grind in a mmo.
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    It's the way of the English forums. Being insulting, and combatitive is the norm around here.

    Reality is that no matter what we say, or suggest, that nothing short of a mass exodus will cause anything to change in regards to the longer patch cycles, and patches containing less content overall.

    The problem is, that a mass exodus is not coming for FFXIV. Trying to convince the playerbase to stage a mass exodus I need not say is a futile endeavor. This game, even through its biggest content drought can limp by on casuals who stick around for player generated content, essentially acting as a VR chat alternative. These types of players don't care about content droughts as long as they periodically get new furnishings or event glamours, and with Dawntrail announced, you can expect them to stick around for even longer. It takes a perfect storm to brew up a mass exodus of players from an MMO. Disasterous game-breaking changes, Controversies with key figures involved with the company, or years worth of poorly recieved expansions. Pick two, and have a public figure announce their departure from the game, and you've got the makings of a serious player bleed off.

    Yes, FFXIV will bleed players - But never in a capacity to raise any eyebrows. Remember, its not only sub money that keeps this MMO alive, but money also generated through the ingame store and no matter how upset we are on the forums, the casuals who keep this game alive will continue playing, and paying in blissfull ignorance of any real issues around them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    It's the way of the English forums. Being insulting, and combatitive is the norm around here.
    bro you really shouldn't talk when you invited your fc member to pile in to join arguments
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    bro you really shouldn't talk when you invited your fc member to pile in to join arguments
    they made a good point and thats all you can come back with? considering how many alt characters you have that you actually yourself post under, I would have thought it wouldnt have bothered you. thin skin I suppose...
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