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    4-month patch cycle was a lie. It's almost 4.5 months now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    As a side note, cycles aren't even 4 months. Except for 6.1, so far they have been always significantly longer than the promised 4 months. 6.3 took over 4.6 months.

    Releases:
    6.0 - 7.12.2021
    6.1 - 12.4.2022
    6.2 - 23.8.2022
    6.3 - 10.1.2023
    6.4 - 23.5.2023

    4 months ~= 121.5 days if we want to be pedantic

    Cycles:
    6.0-6.1 => 126 days = 4.14 months
    6.1-6.2 => 133 days = 4.37 months
    6.2-6.3 => 140 days = 4.60 months
    6.3-6.4 => 133 days = 4.37 months

    Average so far = 133 days = 4.37 months

    "The major patch cycle cadence will be adjusted. Previously, it was 1 major patch every 3.5 months. Going forward it will be one major patch every four months. Roughly two weeks longer."

    Adding extra 2.5 weeks to what is supposed to be 2 weeks is too rough in my opinion.
    Remember when people were saying "what's another 2 weeks"? Now it's another 2.5 weeks. And like a frog in slowly heated water, the players don't realize this gradual change.

    Who else is excited for 5-month patch cycles in 7.x!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    Remember when people were saying "what's another 2 weeks"? Now it's another 2.5 weeks. And like a frog in slowly heated water, the players don't realize this gradual change.

    Who else is excited for 5-month patch cycles in 7.x!!!
    I cant wait to have to wait 5 months for my 2 days worth of content and then be out of content for the entire rest of the patch so for another 5 months, absolutely excited ! Wooooo ! /s
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    It does seem longer. SE did say that they were also taking breaks for holidays, but they aren't very clear about which holidays and when.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    It does seem longer. SE did say that they were also taking breaks for holidays, but they aren't very clear about which holidays and when.
    With patch cycles this long, every patch will have some sort of holiday in there somewhere. Hence, they always have an excuse!
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    The reason given for the widening of the patch cycle is there being more jobs and races than when the game started; they have more equipment to tailor for different body types.
    I feel like why should gameplay content be held up for fashion? Just reuse old gear designs with slight alterations more often to keep things moving. The fashion choices are huge at this point anyway.

    I'll use PSO2:NGS again as an example of different design philosophies. They just dropped a new content type with no fanfare on a minor patch, made completely out of old assets with old enemies, but it's a totally new kind of endgame activity that's good enough to be our new daily routine.

    You spawn into an area divided into many different rooms, each one assigned a different buff reward. You need to decide which buffs you want to prioritize and clear those rooms before the time runs out. Some rooms have waves of enemies, some have puzzles, some have bosses. Once the timer is over, you carry over any buffs you managed to bank into the next phase where you fight a challenging boss under certain conditions, again with a strict time limit.

    Each day the boss cycles to a different one and different restrictions on players like -75% max HP. You earn a new kind of gear upgrade item, and a rare chance of a powerful weapon drop. It's interesting and put together with low resource cost, a new gameplay type made of old assets.

    It's the polar opposite of FF XIV dungeons that have a high resource cost with beautiful new art, new enemies, new music, but completely cookie-cutter gameplay that adds nothing new, basically a high effort reskin of the last 50 dungeons we got.
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    The reason given for the widening of the patch cycle is there being more jobs and races than when the game started; they have more equipment to tailor for different body types.
    I highly doubt, that more jobs and races is so time consuming, that it slows down the patch cycles significantly. Because the development tools are also getting better und many things can be done automaticly.



    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I find it hard to believe EW has way more content than SB. SB had hard mode dungeons, 2 Ultimates, 4 relic zones, a relic dungeon, 2 extra trials(yojimbo and rathalos), a new housing district, relic armor, primal weapons for the new jobs(Both ShB and EW didn’t even give the new jobs previous primal weapons), diving, spear fishing, the list goes on.
    Don't forget that they introduced Bluemage and the Glamour Dresser in Stormblood as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    The reason given for the widening of the patch cycle is there being more jobs and races than when the game started; they have more equipment to tailor for different body types.
    I feel like why should gameplay content be held up for fashion? Just reuse old gear designs with slight alterations more often to keep things moving. The fashion choices are huge at this point anyway.
    This is also complete nonsense that needs correction every time I see it.
    We know that all gear is designed for roughly 5 different body types (in extremely rare cases for more), those being Lalafell, male Midlander, male Highlander, female Midlander and male Roegadyn, the rest is done through bone scaling.
    Every female character, except Lalafell, uses the female midlander body.
    Lalafell use the...well, Lalafell body. Sometimes it's split into male and female but those two are pretty much identical.
    Male Roegadyn and Hrothgar use the male Roegadyn body.
    Every other male uses either the Midlander or Highlander body.


    Outside of very few exceptions they are not making any hats or helmets for Hrothgar or Viera, so I ask you, where is this extra work on equipment coming from when everything is made for the exact same races we've had since Heavensward?



    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    I highly doubt, that more jobs and races is so time consuming, that it slows down the patch cycles significantly. Because the development tools are also getting better und many things can be done automaticly.



    Cheers
    Refer to my spoilered post.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 08-07-2023 at 05:17 PM.

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    All of you do realize that putting Dawntrail as a summer 2024 release is a hard reset for their expansion launches, right? Past expansions came out in the summer. The Pandemic had delayed everything. Then we had patches getting delays along with Endwalker being released in the beginning of September. Plus Dawntrail is packed with more content than past expansions (this includes Dawntrail’s patches), also including the graphical upgrades.

    This is just a troll thread by Koros and should never be taken seriously. He’s an RMT person who just spams the forums to rile people up and bait them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos View Post
    All of you do realize that putting Dawntrail as a summer 2024 release is a hard reset for their expansion launches, right? Past expansions came out in the summer. The Pandemic had delayed everything. Then we had patches getting delays along with Endwalker being released in the beginning of September. Plus Dawntrail is packed with more content than past expansions (this includes Dawntrail’s patches), also including the graphical upgrades.

    This is just a troll thread by Koros and should never be taken seriously. He’s an RMT person who just spams the forums to rile people up and bait them.
    That expansion which we know basically nothing about yet will totally have more content than every previous expansion, when nothing so far even remotely indicates that they will change their usual content delivery.
    -Source: Trust me bro


    Whether Koros is another TitanMen alt or just here to rile people up doesn't even matter.
    The sentiment that Endwalker has not only had longer delays between patches (with no pandemic excuse this time) but those patches have also been disappointing is evidently shared by more people.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 08-09-2023 at 02:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    -Source: Trust me bro
    Many streamers and articles online have gathered information from Yoshida’s interviews at Fan Fest that have stated so.
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