4-month patch cycle was a lie. It's almost 4.5 months now.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Mind telling me your calculations? Did you count .55 as major patch?
2.0 was released in 27/8/2013, 6.4 in 23/5/2023, that's 3556 days.

Major patches are :
2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, 2.5,
3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.5,
4.0, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.5,
5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 5.4, 5.5,
6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 6.3, 6.4 = 28 patches

Average between each patch, including X.5 to Y.0, is 127 days. In-expansion patches have average of 118. This is of course, assuming that ChatGPT gave me right release dates and I didn't do mistakes:



Before someone gets the misconception that I'm demanding that devs hurry up or whatever, I'm just pointing out the fact that patches do take longer, even longer than they said they will, while quality is noticeably worse. Right now EW is at worse pace than even ShB's Covid pace for some reason, and content doesn't reflect the added time to it. The "they take more time to check everything is working" doesn't even apply, EW patches do lack QA, as we can see from numerous bugs EW had. I'm not trying to bring the game down, I just want to have back the better standards, instead of settling on mediocrity.

I would agree with this if only for the fact that you're forgetting that Shb only real content was Bozja and even then that was just watered down but digestible version of Eureka with 2 zones compared to the 4.

They all suck anyway but Shb had less variety in its content than EW. What standards are we comparing with Shadowbringers?

[kaynide]

On a serious note: You have the option to play other games. And if you're unsatisfied with what this one puts out over some amount of time, nobody is forcing you to play this game/keep your sub.

In fact, the devs regularly encourage you to step back and take a break as you want.

"But oh noes! Whad about mah house!?!?"; If having a house is that important to you, then yeah, pay up.

[Supersnow845]

On a serious note: You have the option to play other games. And if you're unsatisfied with what this one puts out over some amount of time, nobody is forcing you to play this game/keep your sub.

In fact, the devs regularly encourage you to step back and take a break as you want.

"But oh noes! Whad about mah house!?!?"; If having a house is that important to you, then yeah, pay up.

Why is “I don’t like the direction of the game and want to make a valid complaint” never an option for you people

It’s

1) suck it up

2) leave

Do you understand how customer feedback works, we are the customer here

[kaynide]

Why is “I don’t like the direction of the game and want to make a valid complaint” never an option for you people

It’s

1) suck it up

2) leave

Do you understand how customer feedback works, we are the customer here

You honestly expect the game to change course in what has been an extremely successful 10 years of business for them? What the game has to offer, what it's going to offer, and at what rate of release it will offer it is a known thing, like clockwork.

It's not going to change because of whiny people on some forum the devs don't even read.

Being mad because the game is putting out content at exactly the rate they promised give or take the pandemic is not a valid concern. Being mad this one single game, however large, can't occupy all your free time for an entire year is not a valid concern.

The game's schedule has never been a mystery, and the same people are going to complain about everything as it comes up. I fully expect these same serial-complainers to complain about the 2 dye channel system when it goes live with "omg why aren't there 3!!!?!?!".

[Jojoya]

Why is “I don’t like the direction of the game and want to make a valid complaint” never an option for you people

It’s

1) suck it up

2) leave

Do you understand how customer feedback works, we are the customer here

We're the customer, but we're not in charge. Square Enix is. They make the decisions.

Our power as a customer is to pay for products/services we like and feel give us value for our money. It is also to stop paying for products/services that don't meet our standards. It is our money that influences the provider in the end, not our words.

By all means leave feedback when you're unhappy with a product/service. Repeating that same feedback multiple times a week for several weeks isn't more effective than leaving it once them moving on to other things.

It also seems like a strange place to leave feedback when many posters are convinced that SE pays no attention the NA forums at all. There are other avenues for providing feedback and they don't require having an active paid subscription.

I know that WoW is an annoying subject around here but the WoD flying fiasco is an excellent example of the power that players have when they unite and cancel their subscription. That's when developers will take notice of the feedback that has been given all along. That is when change players feel is needed will happen.


You've left your feedback here in the forums. It's time for the next step. Unsub. Get your friends who feel the same way to unsub. Get them to get their other friends who feel the same way to unsub. Reach out to those who connect with other players across the world who feel the same way and get them to unsub. Keep leaving your feedback on social media, on Twitch, on YouTube, on other platforms that won't censor your opinion. You don't need an active subscription to leave feedback in those places.

Unite to create a single loud voice that SE can't avoid hearing if you are serious about your concerns. Together you can make a difference.

Either they announce changes for 7.0 that will satisfy everyone that it will be worth returning to the game.

Or they don't, and all of you will know that this truly is no longer the game for you.

[Deo14]

I would agree with this if only for the fact that you're forgetting that Shb only real content was Bozja and even then that was just watered down but digestible version of Eureka with 2 zones compared to the 4.

They all suck anyway but Shb had less variety in its content than EW. What standards are we comparing with Shadowbringers?

"We" are not comparing any standards, but if you mean me, then it's tricky to make comparisons with ShB, because it was affected by Covid. Since covid is irrelevant now, but we still have same patch cycles, I would expect EW to be noticeably better than ShB, yet we don't even have trial storyline, relic weapons were implemented in the least creative way possible, we have no relic armor sets, we have job design and balance issues, and all 3 new varied contents have serious design flaws.

On a serious note: You have the option to play other games. And if you're unsatisfied with what this one puts out over some amount of time, nobody is forcing you to play this game/keep your sub.

In fact, the devs regularly encourage you to step back and take a break as you want.

"But oh noes! Whad about mah house!?!?"; If having a house is that important to you, then yeah, pay up.

TL;DR: Don't keep your hopes and expectations up, settle with mediocrity.

[jameseoakes]

"We" are not comparing any standards, but if you mean me, then it's tricky to make comparisons with ShB, because it was affected by Covid. Since covid is irrelevant now, but we still have same patch cycles, I would expect EW to be noticeably better than ShB, yet we don't even have trial storyline, relic weapons were implemented in the least creative way possible, we have no relic armor sets, we have job design and balance issues, and all 3 new varied contents have serious design flaws.



TL;DR: Don't keep your hopes and expectations up, settle with mediocrity.

It's been really odd as we had Covid to explain the weakness in the 5.X patch content but EW has even less effort despite not having that as an excuse at best EW has the same amount of content as ShB just done in a way that it doesn't have much life after the initial rush leaving the game feeling barren for weeks

[Supersnow845]

It's been really odd as we had Covid to explain the weakness in the 5.X patch content but EW has even less effort despite not having that as an excuse at best EW has the same amount of content as ShB just done in a way that it doesn't have much life after the initial rush leaving the game feeling barren for weeks

Square has figured out from 5.x they don’t actually have to put out content, in fact the less content they put out the more it incentivise the “UWU nightclubbing is content” to abuse and misuse yoshi’s famous “go play other content”

Why would you spend time making content when you’ve thoroughly convinced your playerbase that less content somehow makes you a better game because you can pay a subscription to be told to play other games in your backlog

[Oizen]

I would agree with this if only for the fact that you're forgetting that Shb only real content was Bozja and even then that was just watered down but digestible version of Eureka with 2 zones compared to the 4.

They all suck anyway but Shb had less variety in its content than EW. What standards are we comparing with Shadowbringers?

If we're counting quality of content then Endwalker hasn't had a patch since it came out.