No content for 1 year :)

[Koros]

Long lasting for who though?.

Is it better to give 0% of players long lasting content or 20% of players long lasting content?

By your logic we shouldn't produce bread ever again because not everyone gets to eat the bread

[Raoabolic]

Is it better to give 0% of players long lasting content or 20% of players long lasting content?

By your logic we shouldn't produce bread ever again because not everyone gets to eat the bread

*taps at the gluten intolerant sign*
Hey, I don't make the rules. /shrug

[Jojoya]

Is it better to give 0% of players long lasting content or 20% of players long lasting content?

By your logic we shouldn't produce bread ever again because not everyone gets to eat the bread

In that case, there's no problem since there always has been a long-lasting piece of content in the game that many players already participate in.

Accumulating gil. There's no barrier to entry other than completing the first 2 quests every new character gets and accepting the third. There are multiple options to enhance a player's experience with the content. Reach gil cap, move part of the gil elsewhere and keep going.

All is well on Etheirys now, right?

[Supersnow845]

In that case, there's no problem since there always has been a long-lasting piece of content in the game that many players already participate in.

Accumulating gil. There's no barrier to entry other than completing the first 2 quests every new character gets and accepting the third. There are multiple options to enhance a player's experience with the content. Reach gil cap, move part of the gil elsewhere and keep going.

All is well on Etheirys now, right?

Please tell me this is a joke

[Jojoya]

Please tell me this is a joke

Of course it's sarcastic. A MMO is not going to survive with only a single piece of long lasting content that has appeal to a small segment of the player base.

[Supersnow845]

Of course it's sarcastic. A MMO is not going to survive with only a single piece of long lasting content that has appeal to a small segment of the player base.

And if you actually read their point then you’d understand that giving a small segment a long lasting piece of content is better than giving none of us a long lasting piece of content

Love Bozja or hate Bozja you can’t deny some people loved and it kept them subscribed, there is no equivalent keeping people subscribed that is unique endwalker content

So you are saying “the game can’t survive off a long piece of content for only a small part of the community” and acting like that’s an excuse to give nobody content

[ForteNightshade]

Of course it's sarcastic. A MMO is not going to survive with only a single piece of long lasting content that has appeal to a small segment of the player base.

No, however it would be a start to have something long lasting. The added benefit of creating evergreen content is it generally needs much smaller improvements as time goes on, making it easier to focus on additional evergreen content without abandoning the old. Take Island Sanctuary, for example. With actual depth it could have easily served as a lighter version of farming simulation games with built in longevity. Instead, it's little more than a glorified retainer venture that wouldn't last a week without artificial timegates. And even with those gates has less than 10 minutes of activity a day.

The whole point of MMOs is building multiple sources of evergreen content to cover as many demographics as they can so patches don't stagnate. Which is something Endwalker has completely failed at doing.

[Jojoya]

The whole point of MMOs is building multiple sources of evergreen content to cover as many demographics as they can so patches don't stagnate. Which is something Endwalker has completely failed at doing.

It's not evergreen content that keeps patches from stagnating. Evergreen content is always there waiting to be done and can get boring pretty fast if there's nothing else to do.

Why have players been complaining about the relics for Endwalker? Because they could use evergreen content (hunts, roulettes) to earn them.

It's new content that will take most of the patch cycle (or longer) to complete that keeps a patch from stagnating. Players are always looking for new content to consume.

Eureka and Bozja aren't evergreen content. Once you've farmed your relics, gear, achievements or whatever else you want from the zones, they stop being relevant.

I'm not denying that there's been a problem with Endwalker content in the eyes of many players this expansion. They feel left out because the content that kept them interested in Stormblood and Shadowbringers didn't get a new version this expansion. We saw similar complaints from the Deep Dungeon fans in Shadowbringers.

Can't SE provide both? They managed to do it in Stormblood. Did resources needed for developing Variant/Criterion force them to make a choice between Deep Dungeon and exploratory?

Variant/Criterion was new content for this expansion but has missed the mark with players. If it had a better reward structure or some sort of leaderboard feature, would it have kept players engaged so they weren't left feeling bored?

Did the dissatisfaction with job design kill player interest in some of the other content that would normally help keep them occupied?

There are a lot of things contributing to current dissatisfaction but I don't think anyone has been asking for new evergreen content. They want new content that is fun and rewarding to them, and preferably good job design to use in that content.